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Compare leadership canidates?

Compare leadership canidates?

mesha04

I came across this article today that asks a few quick and basic questions to each candidate. It's a summary that might help you decide which candidates to look more into. https://ipolitics.ca/2020/09/27/meet-the-green-party-leadership-candidates/


Wightly

Definitely not this sub.


[deleted]

Not that I've seen. Someone might suggest a link but I would check out each candidate's website for their party platform. If you go to the Green Party website or search their name on google you should be able to get to their platforms. This is just my opinion, and also relative to the Green Party, not the full political spectrum; **Left leaning candidates** are: Dimitri Lascaris, Meryam Haddad, Amita Kuttner **Centre-Left**: Courtney Howard **Essentially Liberal Party** (**Centre**): Annamie Paul, David Merner (Former Liberal), Glen Murray (Former Liberal) **Centre-Right**: Andre West (neoliberal, wants austerity to balance budgets.)


Wightly

Andrew West is neoliberal and austerity focused? I call B.S. on that. Show me some valid sources to this.


[deleted]

[https://www.andrewwest.ca/issues/deficit-and-the-debt](https://www.andrewwest.ca/issues/deficit-and-the-debt) " Greens should still be to live within our means whenever possible with a target of paying off our debt. The millions we pay in interest alone should be used to help our people. " - A nice sounding way of saying that Andrew believes in neoclassical economics. [https://www.owensoundsuntimes.com/news/local-news/owen-sound-native-running-for-federal-green-party-leadership](https://www.owensoundsuntimes.com/news/local-news/owen-sound-native-running-for-federal-green-party-leadership) “One of the demographics I am focusing on are Green Conservatives, that feel maybe the Conservative Party has lost its way and don’t feel they have another fiscally responsible option to turn to,” West said. “I want to show them that the Green Party is that option.”


neoliberalismkills69

You are clueless to what a neoliberal is.


[deleted]

Tell me what neoliberalism is please. I've read about it. I'd like to understand your definition. Edit; this is a good 3 minute summary of what neoliberalism is from Harvardx; [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t41rFqVpB1I](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t41rFqVpB1I)


BuffaloHustle

From your link; >They believe government interference with free market systems promotes waste, inefficiency, and stagnation. >They reject regulations on industries, high taxation, and public services that are not subject to market competition, and believe in shrinking the size of the government and restricting its functions to the protection of private property through policies and law enforcement, the facilitation of global commerce, and the maintenance of a strong military. From Andrews website he directly states a few things that relate to the above definition. He wants to; * Increase military spending to reach the 2% Nato-set target * Establish a guaranteed livable income * Establish universal pharmacare * End all exploration of the tar sands, prohibit any new development, expire leases that are not currently being exploited, remove all subsidies from the industry and place them in renewables. Therefore we can see that he wants to interfere with the free market, place regulations on an industry, establish more public services, grow the size of the government, and increase spending on the military. That's 1/5 explicitly for neoliberal, 4/5 explicitly against neoliberal. His views on taxation and global commerce are not explicitly stated, but I think it's safe to say that he would generally be for increasing taxation, and he would generally be for free trade. So 1/2 for neoliberal, and 1/2 against neoliberal. In total 2/7 for, and 5/7 against.


[deleted]

Weird metrics to discuss. I'm talking about him being neoliberal compared to others in the Green party. Also, I wasn't aware that the incomplete party platforms of the candidates were the measures we were going to tally up to determine where they are on the political spectrum. He says he is a green fiscal conservative. The guy is posting about his support of the Lima Group on Twitter earlier this week. The guy is communicating in every way possible that he's a neoliberal without saying it directly. Neoliberal aren't all the same in the same way all socialists aren't the same. It's a spectrum. I'm placing him on the right. Feel free to disagree but don't try to prove me wrong by making up some arbitrary 2/3 things he mentioned on his website talk about state intervention so he's obviously not a neoliberal despite the other 1/3 being neoliberal and none of the other candidates have those neoliberal positions... jeeeez.


holysirsalad

> Neoliberal aren't all the same in the same way all socialists aren't the same. It's a spectrum. No, it's not. Neoliberals are to liberalism like Lenin is to socialism. It's *very* specific.


[deleted]

Wha-- are you kidding? Do you think that Neoliberalism was invented by a single person and there is a specific set of rules around what it means to be neoliberal? I really think the folks at r/neoliberal would disagree with you. In fact, there's a whoooole forum where they debate on issues. If you think that neoliberalism is a sub-sect of Liberalism than I guess I know more about it than you lol.


Wightly

When you make up your own definitions, you invalidate and discredit yourself. None of the candidates are neoliberalists. West has made a platform around fiscal responsibility (saying that he wants free for all business is just making up your own facts) and observing that the Conservatives are getting into bed with fossil fuels and right-wing rhetoric. A middle ground fiscal policy with environmental focus, is an attractive demographic target. Steal the disenfranchised Conservative and Liberal votes in the middle.


holysirsalad

> a specific set of rules around what it means to be neoliberal Well Encyclopedia Britannica has a pretty good definition... > I really think the folks at r/neoliberal would disagree with you. In fact, there's a whoooole forum where they debate on issues. Well this here subreddit is almost entirely made up of posts written in English, so using your logic anyone who writes in English must be a Green! > If you think that neoliberalism is a sub-sect of Liberalism than I guess I know more about it than you lol. It's literally capitalist liberalism. I'm not sure what else you'd call it.


neoliberalismkills69

You are clueless. You have proved u have idea what a neoliberal is. Shame on all you lying leftists spreading miss information and spreading slanderous filth about people doing good in he fight against climate change.


[deleted]

Please provide evidence when accusing me of lying. If not you're the one engaged in slander.


idspispopd

It sounds like you'd prefer a summary, but [here are their platforms](https://old.reddit.com/r/GreenPartyOfCanada/comments/ih2sua/list_of_the_leadership_candidates/).


Funguy-69

There's a ton of toxic team dimitri and leftist trolls on this sub so you won't get a ton of accurate information here. Mostly spreading false information and slandering candidates.


ArnieAndTheWaves

>here are their platforms Kind of sounds like you're the toxic one here. I support Dimitri, and I certainly haven't slandered any candidate... And it's not like supporters of any of the candidates haven't criticized other candidates. That's how a leadership race goes...


Funguy-69

There is a difference between criticizing and spreading misinformation. Their platforms are only their vision for the party which doesn't mean it will become the GPC platform even if they become leader. Their vision doesn't become platform just because they are leader.