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Can't wait for the "potatoes" statement. But Jesus this is that start of the match one shotting and just decimating hp.

Can't wait for the "potatoes" statement. But Jesus this is that start of the match one shotting and just decimating hp.

thunderwolf450

Axe is probably the worst weapon in the game, on par with the north hammer. Those guys were obviously potatoes, try the same tactics against a coordinated squad. You'll get your butt kicked. That video doesn't represent the current state of balance. It's still in ft favour, but at least pred is not as weak as before. Stop posting videos from quickmatches and stating how broken pred is, it's getting annoying.


Alex_Will_Sleep

Its not about the tactics obviously you adjust. My tactics is usually drag out the game because it's too easy if I play my normal playstyle of use everything I have. Against good teams it changes but they are so far and in-between that I keep running my ass with disc against the one team that it doesn't work on. The only team is the rangers. They are good matches and they are the only ones I struggle on. Other than that I've died once or twice trying random builds... Even then I am not using plasma... Which just makes games way too fucking easy. If you don't like me pointing out that you can do 150+ damage in one attack and snowball against teams then don't comment. Downvote and move on. I'm posting what I see as a problem to the MAJORITY of the player base not just the top tier players.


thunderwolf450

You are aware of FM and 9 sec spot right? Support gives you 20% damage resistance, so you won't go down in 1 blast. We are constantly playing in private matches against each other, pred is not strong at all. The damage is still insane and you need to do your max to claim a downed person. I haven't been killed a single time while playing in random for months now. Does it mean that pred is op? Nope, it doesn't. My opponents were just all bad. While playing in privates, my winrate is significantly lower, because the players I play against, know what they are doing and how the game is played. Pred needs damage to be able to kill, otherwise it's gonna be silly.


Alex_Will_Sleep

Ransoms... So the majority of the player base??? Thanks for agreeing that the Pred didn't need a buff in randoms. You running into bad players is the main point. In privates idc.... ONCE AGAIN THE MAJORITY OF PLAYERS ARE IN RANDOMS A good premade ft that knows what they are going maxing damage will melt pred cool but a majority of players are not in full premades. I am aware of 9 sec spot. Prior bug with ads... Triple knife strikes... Reload while switching weapons. Yes these things exist/existed. You can still down a support with the bonus within a second. https://youtu.be/pSXKxAWkYTg idc "potatoes" my point is it took 3 shots to down 175 with the resistance. And then another second to hit and kill. Its rather easy I usually don't choose to execute the down guy asap I like longer games... But it's not hard to get stupid damage numbers as pred... I believe 175+the 20 resistance is "like" having 220.... 175*.2+175... I understand the game is hard in privates... It should be if you are going against top tier... The majority of the player base is not top tier they are at best the average player in a fps... But having mediocre preds who can't do simple hit and runs... And ft that can't run syringes is a huge learning issue. I would rather see the player base learn and then balance around that. Combizerkers were a problem when I didn't understand the game. Then I adapted quickly and they became an instant win. Then they buffed the shit out of ft with the specializations... The only thing ft really needed imo was something like fm for faster revives but still dropping hp after each revive. And that was it.. preds tweak to the "near death" armour is great too I don't mind that either. But these specializations were so strong for both sides it doesn't help it makes top teams godly and same with preds. If a Pred wants to win and not try... Use plasma and melt the ft from a decent range.. aim at objects and flick. Ft can't counter this shit especially if you are running a ghost pred now the ft member looking for you gets downed by a plasma the wrist blade... If they are all looking then aoe and bail and reset. Pred doesn't need a single primary or secondary... They can get by fine with plasma and blades.


thunderwolf450

Nah, not average, majority of players are complete potatoes. Even if you give them one-shot-gun, they will still loose. Do you really want to balance game around that kind of people, seriously? Ghost and any other melee spec is completely useless against a premade. As soon as you go into melee, you die. They can bring shit tonn of medkits and other supplies. Good luck wasting all those, even with plasma spam. Talking about plasma spam, it's not the greatest idea. It is still quiet easy to locate where the pred is shooting from and spot him. Also, you don't have to soak up all that damage, you can still move and hide behind objects, where plasma won't get you. Once again, fuck balancing the game around randos. It's not gonna work.


Alex_Will_Sleep

So I'm still drunk from a wedding but you seem to not care for the health of the game. Idc about private matches. I care more so about the majority of they player and getting them good. Is rather bring them up to a competent level then balance. I don't care to have 16 friends and hope they want to play when I get on. I'd rather play when I have time. I have two kids a full time job about 40-60 hours a week and still find time for this game. Killing the player base kills the fun normal people like me. Plasma does 100 aoe.. two shots can down faster than a heal. Use a hook to destroy the pack and get out... Shoot more. Your elitism is so fucking awful man. Get off the pedestal and look at this shit reasonably. Fuck the top tiers balance around the mid tiers. Also ghost is not useless... Jesus you must have never used bow wrist blade bounce out or same with plasma blade out. Its chip damage but it can down fast if you hit a face shot then melee twice... But hey... I just go for head shots only at this point. Same goes for plasma hide behind a wall and pop out and shoot for Max damage reset and shoot from a different angle... Use diversity of tactics melee to keep them looking close bow to make then look for range... Switch constantly.


thunderwolf450

Balancing should awlays happen around the guys who know how to play the game, not around a bunch of idiots, who don't even know how to call the reinforcements. That's my point. It sounds awesome in theory, but once again, try that against a premade, cause that's the only way you can understand if something is viable or not.


Alex_Will_Sleep

Do you not run valk with adrenal? It has stupid bonus to leaps and stamina so you can leap in and leap around wasting nades and tubes wasting very little hp. This style has been my style since launch and it works 90% of the time... I've had to adjust and make a class with pouch for 1 team other than that getting in and adding the melee causes teams to look close and then I hit with range and just proceed with the mix ups... Idk how you say melee and you die.... Clearly I never stay in for more than one or two swings depending on what I'm doing....


thunderwolf450

It works in quick matches only. There is no possible way that anyone can do the same with a team on comms. I can basically solo most of the pred players while playing alone, cause they are just bad, that's all. You are always welcome to play against me and other guys who I usually play with, I assure you, you will reconsider your position. You can use whatever strategy you want, use your katana, plasma or anything else. Even in private matches, we play with restricitons for ft, not allowing field medics and tracker perk.


Alex_Will_Sleep

We've gone over this.. I'm on ps4 your group is pc. I subscribe to pc master race view of m+k being better. Framerate should be 60+ etc. If I had a ps5 maybe I would because it has better settings and reduced motion blur. I know my experience against top ps teams and have had success. If it doesn't work on pc thats fine. Its not my problem to deal with. Maybe I should be rude and say let's not balance around the pc player base because it's quite small compared to the ps player base.


SaekiKayako

Lol in FT favor. SMH. No no. According to your logic, those predators were potatoes. Absolutely garbage.


Alex_Will_Sleep

This is just dumb... The snowball potential is so out of this world with the new bonuses.... Duelist one shot some deadly? One shot.... They may not have been the best... But what do you do to one shots? This also goes for my assassin...https://youtu.be/fPmO9ScWDr8 or this one at 1435 left down...https://youtu.be/1iotDwG5144 it's 150+


The-Elder-Trolls

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ekaitxa

You're so butthurt you took the time to type that lawl.


The-Elder-Trolls

It was a long comment that took me hours to write, as can be obviously seen. Your reply makes so much sense


etra_kurdaj

I watched a livestream where a guy with the axe missed twenty axe solo-kill hits in a row. He was spamming it, trying to make the ability work, and he just kept missing. That demonstration was enough to get me to not even bother trying the axe/hammer until something is changed about it.


Alex_Will_Sleep

Don't hit r2 use l2.. aim and it's easy it hit... I also played dks so free aiming is natural for me.... Also just as much damage can be done if you use the katana and hit l2, triangle, r2, triangle, r2 and your ft member is either dead or close to dead.


etra_kurdaj

And what are those commands for keyboard jockies?


Alex_Will_Sleep

from cloaked---Heavy attack, cloak, reg attack, cloak, reg attack...