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Match Thread: Seattle Sounders FC vs Sporting Kansas City | Major League Soccer

Match Thread: Seattle Sounders FC vs Sporting Kansas City | Major League Soccer

asaharyev

Thank you, Kansas City.


saxtonaustralian

Finally, Kansas beats Seattle. I’m still salty over ‘16


SpliffyKensington

Our 2016 run kicked off after getting destroyed by KC 😏


ImpulsiveShotput

I'll never forgive SKC for helping to usher in the Schmetzer era :-(


born10against

Announce Wesley.


MajorTomsAssistant

GG SKC, you guys came out and just played better


NudeTayne_

Amazing showing SKC. Wake up game for us. Midfield needs to be more robust and creative to be able to go the stretch. With or without the Roldans.


CreeperDude17

Thank you SKC


lafc88

Thank you SKC


jjspacer

Gg, hope Vermes feels better soon


shivering

Fuckin way she goes boys.


pete_blake

And I’ll say it again…it’s ALWAYS fun when you beat a Cascadia kid!!!!! Congrats to the guys…and Melia is a BEAST!!! SKC TILL I DIE!!!


poop322

YES SIR! MN x SKC destroying Cascadia this weekend!


pete_blake

Midwest, 6 pts…Cascadia, 0 pts this weekend 😎😎😎.


NotASaintDDC

Ahem... Just saying the Des Moines Menace beating Portland Timbers U23 to move on to the USL 2 National Championship... PNW taking all the L's tonight.


Vassalaerial

Glad someone from the Heartland is doing well, because KVFC kinda shit the bed this year.


NotASaintDDC

Kaw Valley had it rough with all of Chicago, DSM, and STL all being pretty good.


Helicoptersoundsh2

He looks so fucking manly and I hate it!


sherlocknessmonster

GG SKC... you guys out classed us today


r3dphoenix

GG SKC probably the first game I felt we've been out-coached this year


nordic-nomad

Melia had a hell of a game and our improved depth this year has staved off our normal July-August collapse so far. It’s hard to coach around gassed, called up, and injured players.


sherlocknessmonster

I really think it wasnt out coached... we had heavy legs and made huge mistakes on 2 goals.


Mechamobzilla1

Schmetz kept Rowe in when he was clearly getting beat. Thats a huge issue, because Rowe was creating catastrophic issues.


szazzy

Honestly, I feel like Kelyn Rowe has gotten more MLS chances than anyone I can think of. He has played for good organizations and fanbases that have supported him, and yet has never been able to tighten it up to be consistently reliable. He makes mental errors that you’d expect from a young player every game. I always wanted to root for the guy but so many of his issues seem like mental hang ups - a weird mix of arrogance and insecurity in his game.


sherlocknessmonster

Yeah.. i think Dobbledare there... i think Cissoko going down put a wrench in how he was going to sub. I think Dobbledare was a sub for Rowe after halftime.


r3dphoenix

Yeah I'm getting sick of these 3 game weeks.


sherlocknessmonster

3 game weeks during an international break is supremely stupid


litthefilter

Especially the international break for the tournament for the federation that MLS is a member of.


PizzaSounder

This just in. SKC is better than Austin.


ImpulsiveShotput

Oven mitts needed for this take


SupportingKansasCity

19 games left. 18 of them in the Western conference. Table is going to get wild.


SupportingKansasCity

Did I miss something? Why do we only have 3 games against Eastern conference teams? Did MLS change stuff up this year?


evilcamels

Schedule is still fucked from COVID rules to minimize travel


PlebBot69

That's good. I'd hate to travel 800 miles to Atlanta when we can instead travel 1800 miles to Seattle!


eloel-

I mean, making us play Orlando or Miami would just be mean.


SupportingKansasCity

Gotcha.


wisdomsword

Need to watch some porn after this


or9ob

Recommend a beautiful coming of age story instead. Seattle @ Austin, last weekend.


Helicoptersoundsh2

Like he said, porn. (Edit: a joke about how awesome it was, not about those underage boys)


CentristIdiot

Dude..


GianlucaBusio

Another victim of the Salloi


jjspacer

I was thinking how he isnt on the gold cup roster... then I remembered he is Hungarian


GianlucaBusio

Honestly if the Euros were next month he'd be on the plane with them.


jjspacer

He is playing really well. I thought he might have needed a change of scenery the last season (hoped Sounders could get him for cheaper) but I was wrong.


ImpulsiveShotput

The thing is, his xG numbers were still really good in 19 and 20. He just couldn't find the back of the net. But, from everything I've read at least, he put in the work in the offseason to not only ensure that he's still finding the good spots he was finding before but to fine-tune that aspect and also to clean up his finishing.


jjspacer

Yep, I think his xG in 19 was 10 and he had 0 goals


Juventus19

He was downright dreadful in 2019 and 2020. But he has found his 2018 form again and that just makes us so much better. Instead of starting Khiry Shelton on the wing who isn’t a winger, we have a real threat out there. Really happy he’s found his juju again!


jjspacer

I had faith that 2019 and 2020 were just being unlucky. When you have a -10xg in i think 2019 is just confidence if you are able to bring that back he will be scoring (which is what is happening)


sherlocknessmonster

Honestly we played horible, but unlucky on Rui's chip and Montero's bike.


ImpulsiveShotput

I don't know if I'd call a great goalkeeper playing great "unlucky."


sherlocknessmonster

It is a great goal keeping to get a touch on it.. but it could've gone anywhere... he just happened to touch it in away it hit the post instead of going in the top corner. Thats why its unlucky... the same as it would have been lucky if it deflected the other direction eventhough it was a great chip.


MrMidnightsclaw

Unlucky on the chip? Give Melia some credit!


sherlocknessmonster

Unlucky we were playing on "a shitty turf surface" that probably gives Melia a couple extra inches on his vert. On that nice plush, cushioned grass in KC, he probably doesnt get a touch on it.


MrMidnightsclaw

LOL


phinnaeus7308

Unlucky that Melia is so good?


PlebBot69

Unlucky that Melia went with the XXL gloves with extra thick finger laces last night


Helicoptersoundsh2

Imagine the narrative if we drew or lost by only one. Then think of the alternate timeline where Ruidiaz didn't score last week.


sherlocknessmonster

Rui's wonder goal was just icing... we played well and a point with that lineup on the road is a win. SKC is the best team we have faced in many weeks... our injuries/call ups and congested schedule finally caught up with us


NudeTayne_

For sure. Can’t rely on those types of things. Lost because of our lack of shape and inexperience. Bound to happen sooner or later with the scrappy squads we’ve been fielding.


sherlocknessmonster

Oh for sure...it couldve been a different game with Rui's chip. But we played poor overall


GianlucaBusio

GG Seattle


childishbambiino

GG Seattle


lupinefury

GG SKC fam. You guys had some razzle dazzle moments tonight for sure.


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jjspacer

I feel that SKC hangs 3 on us during our first meeting this time it wasn't a hat-trick


scyth3s

Bad take. Not every goalie is going to be Frei, Melia, or Robles.


mjconns

He was left high and dry for two of those


Nitro_the_Wolf_

1 was his fault, 2 were defensive errors where he couldn't do much about it. And even the one that was his fault started as a flop and ended as a banger


Fisherman_TS

Hell of a match SKC. Looking forward to the next one, should be a war for the top of the table all year long.


TKK922

Maybe because Vermes isn’t on the field


derdkp

This was the first time in my memory that SKC we not super dirty. Gags, see you in KC


ImpulsiveShotput

Did you not watch in 2019? SKC have been near the bottom of the league in fouls every season since then and were trending down in 17 and 18.


Sporkedup

SKC haven't been particularly rough or dirty for the last few years. Hard to shed that rep though. In terms of total fouls, Seattle is consistently one of the cleanest in the league. SKC has been hovering closer (2019 aside), and has really been doing a quietly good job of cleaning up the unnecessary fouls, poor tackles, and all that! Frankly, I'd say Seattle's usually low foul count is a sign of their definite quality, as they get good results from clean play. Which is annoying, because it would be way more fun to hate you because you're dirty out there!


derdkp

Well, we did not see them much last year. So it really has been a few years. And it is good to see.


Helicoptersoundsh2

I feel like our matches agaimst SKC have typically been chippy, too.


Stingy_Jack296

GG


tastycakeman

rowe is like a chaotic puppy. i enjoy looking at him, but i dont want him driving any machinery or responsible for any decision making.


shivering

He's really hit or miss


scyth3s

It's weird cuz he was not this bad in his New England days


PizzaSounder

I mean, I'd rather not have a level headed and reasonable puppy operating machinery.


morry32

good luck all


Klaxon5

GG KC. We'll meet again.


litthefilter

GG SKC


Nitro_the_Wolf_

GG SKC! AND DONT FORGET TO UPVOTE MATCH THREAD!


phinnaeus7308

GG SKC, y’all always bring it and today was no exception.


big-shotFaker

Man Shelton sometimes reminds me of a circa 2010 Nate Jaqua.


tuttlebuttle

Well, GG KC. The first of three is done


MrMidnightsclaw

Got to say, you guys have good commentators!


exhibitleveldegree

Thats mostly Stef Frei. Don’t expect him to stay in the booth tho


scorcherdarkly

He could stay there, that's fine with me.


sounders1974

True, much less biased than most teams. Just as long as Keller isn't talking about " the easiest of tap ins"


TheRealHenryG

~~True, much less biased than most teams.~~ Just as long as Keller isn't talking ~~about " the easiest of tap ins~~


GianlucaBusio

Oh Melia you sexy bastard


KC_Night

Timothy F. Melia


or9ob

WHERE IS THE FUCKING URGENCY???


sounders1974

Shhhh don't criticize the team or else people on here will tell you you're the worst


Nitro_the_Wolf_

We used it on Thursday


or9ob

Losing I get. Not having good players I get too. But walking it and (looking like giving up)? Not the Sounders look.


Helicoptersoundsh2

I'm concerned that I forgave Garth too early with a short squad *before* the first game of the season. They pulled off a great unbeaten run, and now we will see if it was a fluke or if Shmetz really can hold off until the window.


Fisherman_TS

I can't believe that cross came from Rowe.


Konig

JFC GG SKC Melia is a real one


scyth3s

This truly was a game of great goalkeeping to secure the win for SKC


sherlocknessmonster

Rowe shit all day and then that


wheezl

Hahaha this ref is tragic.


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wheezl

Pointed the wrong way for a free kick for one.


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wheezl

Ok I may have been a bit hyperbolic.


derdkp

I thought he has been ok.


wheezl

It’s not an excuse we deserve to lose. Just a few hilarious calls or non-calls.


derdkp

Not perfect, but not game ruining.


spoiled__princess

Was that an indirect kick?


derdkp

That would have been a really harsh backpass call


GianlucaBusio

If you're talking about Melias save then no


TKK922

Why is SKC fans so worried about 7 minutes stoppage time? We aren’t going to do shit with it


Carthelm

I'm not sure you realize how many late goals we've given up over the last couple seasons


JayhawkCSC

Not worried just wondering why so much. Absolutely bizarre counting here.


GianlucaBusio

Flashbacks


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BoomaMasta

We've gotten slightly better this year, but the last two were tragic. We dropped so many points in stoppage. For the record, I was expecting 5, and stoppage estimates always seem like a plus/minus 2 situation.


GianlucaBusio

Seven minutes for what exactly


phinnaeus7308

To give Melia time to improve his stats some more


C4LL51GN

Anyone else just notice the digital ball on the ad was moving in sync with the game ball? Highlight of the match.


johnnyseattle

Rowe couldn't hit water if he fell out of a fucking boat


sherlocknessmonster

Love how Kasey Keller thinks Atencio should be a CB... why waste his ability to get forward


NormanIsMyHero

That's where Atencio plays for Defiance.


derdkp

Keller should not be on TV


sherlocknessmonster

He's a good neutral...and he's better when he is in the studio


childishbambiino

7 minutes of stoppage…ref confirmed Sounders fan /s


Helicoptersoundsh2

Water break, subs, and goals. Nothing came of it, but it feels like refs are actually tacking on the right amount. A few years ago 4 minutes seemed like a lot of time.


or9ob

Maybe he’s trying to make up for foul leading up to the first goal :) /s


tastycakeman

hahah that brad smith sprinting backwards and then passing it between stef and him multiple times is just, wow


SonAskani

7 mins feels excessive


ecdm98

I’ll join in. 7 minutes?!?!


Darkshynes

7 minutes of stoppage seems very generous


sherlocknessmonster

Yeah... its like a replay of the El Salvador vs Qatar match. Very generous


skcku

Where did 7 minutes come from? I could see 5.


aquaknox

I wish I had confidence that there was a guy with a stopwatch actually measuring the duration of stoppages.


aquaknox

3-1 is just like a normal score line? Can we stop pretending that losing 3-1 to a really quite good Sporks team is somehow super embarrassing?


sounders1974

I think it's fair to complain about getting outplayed by your biggest conference rival at home, why are you so offended by that?


aquaknox

it's not a great look to moan so much at the top of the table, for one


sounders1974

Gatekeeping on criticizing the team for a bad performance? What do they pay you? Come on, it's fine to admit the team didn't play well lmao you need to take it easy


aquaknox

There's a reason we play 34 of these


SupportingKansasCity

7 minutes?


shunna75

7 minutes of stoppage against Seattle. Of course lol


Fisherman_TS

Makes no sense to me either. Should be 4 at the most.


Carthelm

7 minutes feels like a lot?


NagyBiscuits

Even with the 3 goals and injury stoppage, 7 is quite excessive


wheezl

Not over yet. But GG all the same. Have to say with the lineups I’m not really worried about the performance.


Thedinosaurs

Seattle fans turning this into "the excuses sub"...Rowe this, ref that, lineup this, coaching that...fun to watch. SkC are just playing a good game and the Seattle pressure has been weak. Welcome to the "everyone else's weekend" sub


Nitro_the_Wolf_

KC has had a great game, but all 3 goals were avoidable by us. Not saying we would've won, but there was no need for us to give them 3


kbar7

TIL criticizing one of your own team's players when he is playing badly turns the entire sub of r/MLS into an excuses sub. What else are we supposed to discuss besides the performances of the teams/players lol


Thedinosaurs

Rowe played with more pressure than anyone on the team, his decisions were not great when on the ball, but his continued bad passes were because he won the ball more than anyone else on the team. His excessive time on the ball makes him an easy scapegoat for a lackluster game. Edit: Wanted to give him his due in possesion.


shivering

We are concerned about that lack of effort.


Helicoptersoundsh2

His effort is great. He was the only one getting in the box a couple weeks ago. He is always trying, it just isn't working. He has just lost something with age. Sucks because I want to see a local dude kick ass.


shivering

The person I responded to edited his comment. He said we should be more concerned with the lack of effort from everyone else.


kbar7

So your problem isn't too much criticism, its that we are criticizing Rowe? Rowe has been a turnover machine especially in the last few games. He does win the ball, and if you notice, no one is criticizing it. Its when he turns it over constantly that is a problem. And you can see tons of posts also criticizing mental errors like Arreaga falling asleep on the job.


Thedinosaurs

So what's Rowe supposed to do when he's working hard and no one else is finding space to let him offload a hard-won ball? Just feel like you guys are a little to harsh on one of your hardest workers...


kbar7

Finding space isn't the problem, he has just straight up missed several open players. And again its been a consistent issue all season.


Thedinosaurs

I'll grant you I'm limited to ESPN+, so maybe I'm working with limited information (yall have tons of prime time games), just seems a little harsh on dude putting the work is all...


or9ob

No doubt KC has played well. But Rowe and Seattle has had multiple mental lapses leading to goals, can’t deny that.


r3dphoenix

We know we're losing. You don't want us to figure out why? Edit: I'm blaming Rowe the most. And it hurts even more cause he's holding Lodeiro's spot for now.


ckwalsh

Credit to your keeper Sporting, he hasn’t been deliberately slowing down the game too much


YaBoiTheDuck

Rowe double agent, love to see it


sherlocknessmonster

Looks like a triple agent for you guys and SKC


GianlucaBusio

Living on his own terms 💯💯


SupportingKansasCity

The TVA is about to portal in and take Rowe away.


johnnyseattle

Let's fucking hope


aquaknox

unfortunately this is not the aberration Rowe, this is just normal


ednksu

Skc knows


gottahavemyPOPPs

Crazy how we are in mid July and just now playing Seattle. And we still haven’t played “our rival” Minnesota yet either


aquaknox

yeah schedule was screwey this year. We had both our LAFC and LAG games within like the first 4 weeks.


sherlocknessmonster

Guess next week in training is all passing drills


Sterkleton

Rowe is where possession/momentum goes to die too often. Would love for him to succeed but damn


redsyrinx2112

It's weird because I think he's better than most bench players in MLS, but he isn't good enough to start everywhere.


Sterkleton

Agreed. I've said this before on here but he was definitely meant as a depth signing, but has seen too much playing time due to the injury situation. I think he'd be a fine depth player.


sherlocknessmonster

Its like Pete Vagenas is being channeled thru him


PembyVillageIdiot

Rowe with *checks notes* his millionth horrendous pass of the game


sherlocknessmonster

Can we sub out Rowe...jfc... glad A Roldan is coming back


Klaxon5

JP needs to be close to yellow card accumulation.


GSShenanigans

Rowe has been terrible tonight


derdkp

Rowe can not keep starting for this team


khay3088

He's been a solid backup CM but he's been bad at RWB. Rather see Dobbelaere start there.


sherlocknessmonster

ARoldan should be back next match


aquaknox

and then Rowe will start in the midfield


spoiled__princess

Then Christian will be back?


Nitro_the_Wolf_

And then Rowe will start in the midfield


PTFCDiegoMassacre

Busy watching the Gold Cup but wanted to pop in and say LETS GOOOO SKC! GUT THE FISH!!!!!


Konig

[Oh heyyyy](http://gph.is/YZrz9C)


MisterGone5

I like this, you guys are cute together


TKK922

Lol you are not even in a play off spot


PTFCDiegoMassacre

*Impersonating General Hux “I don’t care if we win! I just need Seattle to lose”