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A musician is inherently one of the safest professions, with one of highest mortality rates

A musician is inherently one of the safest professions, with one of highest mortality rates

Ok-Kaleidoscope5

I find that as a clarinetist in high school marching band — it did not feel the safest.


bowyer-betty

...I just got a horrible mental image of a bloody clarinet protruding from the back of someone's neck.


Ok-Kaleidoscope5

Trust me, it’s a real fear.


bowyer-betty

Oh, I imagine. Alto saxer here, though I haven't played in a long time (smoking killed my band career) and never did marching band. I had someone stumble into me while playing, though, and it definitely could have ended really badly. Busted my lip on the ligature and cut my tongue (I assume on the reed), but nothing serious.


Ok-Kaleidoscope5

Glad it ended alright — that’s crazy!


Ninja6aiden

Nothing scarier than the sousaphones doing a leading March and the one in front trips


jennyfrommyblock

Upvoting for a fellow ~former~ alto saxer


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Samgoesblam2

Why the fuck man


ZtephenGrackus

Ha fellow marching band clarinetist over here


Ok-Kaleidoscope5

Nice! Did you ever have a fear of injury on the field? It was always at the back of my mind lol


Team_Braniel

I played Oboe. Now you don't march with an Oboe normally, its a concert instrument not a marching one, but at parades and things we still have to march sometimes. Are you familiar with an Oboe reed? It's about half as wide as a clarinet reed, doubled, and on the end of a straw. So like one trip and you've got a flat kebab skewer shoving right out the backside of your neck. I've gashed the roof of my mouth a few times from someone walking past my chair while I was playing and tapping the bell on accident.


OneSidedDice

If you march with it, it's a Hoboe


Team_Braniel

*slow clap*


ZtephenGrackus

Haha yeah it was always a thought!


-Liliane-

i was a trumpet (now in the color guard. trumpets are fuckin wild) and the amount of times i almost got decapitated by a trombone is ridiculous


dayblaq94

I played trombone. Idk about anybody else but if you got to close I did it on purpose.


franklygoingtobed

How was the transition from musical instrument to mammal?


Stallin4time

Lol tbh all marching band instruments have their cons, worst thing I did was back marching with a contra tuba on shoulder, tripped and tuba fell right on chest, super fun times!


Admiral_Nyss

I can confirm, does not feel the safest


OneSidedDice

As a trumpet player, I felt safer marching behind the clarinets because their movements alerted me to upcoming obstacles like potholes, and horse and elephant dung. I may have enjoyed watching their movements a little too much, but later in life I re-met and married one of them, so it's all good.


teadrinkingdragon

I'm an alto sax player. When I was in highschool, I was in the marching band (and every other instrumental group) and I remember one show my freshman year where we had to pick up our instruments from the ground; you know, a pretty common show move. Welp, one of the sharp springs from my sax decided it was going to go through my fingernail and it tore half of one of my right nails off. It was excruciating. Fun times!


SuccessiveStains

That's why they don't march oboe or other double Reed instruments.


Phil_Eggtree

Can confirm, I also played clarinet in high school marching band.


NasaTester333

Nah honey, bass clarinet players doing saxaphone suicides in high school in 90°F weather in front of an entire audience. Did i mention that each bass clarinets are different sizes?


nemo69_1999

Who in the F would play bass clarinet in marching band? What, you were playing contrabass clarinet in marching band?


NasaTester333

Yes for a month, but then i chose to play the flute instead


metric-poet

Musicians don’t die on the job more than any other profession.


nemo69_1999

When they do, it's front page news. Perception is everything on reddit.


IAmASeeker

People in creative professions are statistically more likely to suffer from emotional turmoil that leads to suicide and overdose. The reality is that most artists die before anyone sees/hears their work.


metric-poet

If it’s their profession it means they are getting paid for it, so obviously someone is hearing their work. There are many many more musicians being paid for their work than just the artists in the top 40s. Remember there are often entire bands of people and backup singers etc who are all musicians. Don’t forget the bands playing live music in all the pubs and parties. That really waters down the shower thought down to nothing.


gutprof

Yes, virtually all musicians die.


Doustin

Ozzy and Keith Richards gonna keep it from ever being all musicians


saturnsnephew

Ozzie is on his way out. Keith is sucking the last remaining life force from him.


Onyxeye03

Let us believe okay


Zealousideal_Law8297

No I think Ozzy will make it to 100. That dude just don’t stop.


buzzcut13

!remindme 5 years just in case he's still alive and I'll message you


buzzcut13

also I have no idea how to use that bot.


blue4029

FUNFACT: ozzie osbourne is basically a mutant. he has incredibly high alchohol tolerance


LoisLaneEl

Just alcohol?


Nutwinder

I came here to say this exact thing. You beat me to it.


RSJustice

Unless they are virtual only…


Snoo_59613

Not ling ling. Ling ling eternal.


TezMono

Lmfaoo I haven't thought about this show in forever hahaha thanks for the laugh!


Tawptuan

This somehow rings true.


OMIWA

Iggy Pop may be immortal


Bluewafflebooty01

Where did you find that it would be the safest profession? Thinking something like deskwork would the most safe


Ok-Kaleidoscope5

I see you’ve forgotten about paper cuts


Lustnugget

And the lack of exercise


Minethink144

And what about high volume and hear loss


AskAboutMyCoffee

I have hand sanitizer to remind me of those.


Ok-Kaleidoscope5

Oh I cringe at the thought!


Tawptuan

And murderous bosses.


mikeconcho

Sitting at a desk all day long is very harmful to our bodies.


Bluewafflebooty01

Yes indeed! But I was thinking more about casualties.


saturnsnephew

Desk work leads to sitting which leads to blood clots and poor cardiovascular health. Musicians are usually moving around more. They also die from ODs and suicide a lot. Unless your a super star musician with millions of dollars, being a touring musician is incredibly stressful and difficult and very demanding on your body and mind


Bluewafflebooty01

Being a musician myself: 95% is sitting down and practicing. You don't go around touring all the time it's as you said, quite impossible.


Anon-Emus1623

This. And emails, and invoices, and driving, and recording and editing, etc. All seated.


casualbearsuit

Apparently you missed safety training, otherwise you'd know about seasonal affective disorder. It's as dangerous as a baler.


clayphish

… especially for touring musicians. Usually it’s long hours on the road trying to rush from locale to locale. Not exactly safe traveling.


fuzzeenavel

I think being a park ranger would be pretty good in terms of health. You’re outdoors and active, but don’t do hard manual labor. Good for the mental and physical health


robilar

But what about the radioactive wild boars?


fuzzeenavel

Bring a gun and some rad-x


nemo69_1999

Sounds like you're playing to much fallout 76.


robilar

Never touched the stuff. I'd rather tangle with radioactive wild boars.


webdevguyneedshelp

Actually sitting too long at a desk causes blue waffle booty


indetermin8

Japan would like to have a word with you. Karoshi.


Redeem123

Why would you think musicians have particularly high mortality rates?


TheDubiousSalmon

The key is that die while still being a musician, as many musicians continue creating and performing music at advanced ages, often until right before they die. There are a lot more 80 year old musicians than, say, construction workers.


RanBS

I thought op was thinking more about musicians dying from drugs and shit


TheDubiousSalmon

Oh yeah that might actually be it, huh.


ambiguousoul

*rappers mostly (of late) Edited: of late and you can see the actual point I'm trying to establish below


Unitato666

That is absolutely not limited to rap.


ambiguousoul

I agree. But recent incidents of that of the rappers like lil peep, juice wrld are to be noted. Most of the musicians in general drink, smoke up and do drugs which is totally fine. But going the extreme has to be taken care of unless it doesn't affect you doing the music the way you truly want to do. Edited: 'Most the musicians in general', sorry I realised it quite late.


Absurdity_Everywhere

Ah yes, noted Rappers Janice Joplin, Sid Vicious, John Bonham, Bradley Nowell, Jimi Hendrix, Prince, Allen Woody, Amy Winehouse, Tom Petty, Hank Williams Sr. Perhaps it has more to do with lots of money and fame and an often cruel industry than whatever type of music they’re playing.


ambiguousoul

> Perhaps it has more to do with lots of money and fame Exactly my point >than whatever type of music they’re playing. Absolutely


TezMono

So then not "most rappers".


ambiguousoul

My point is whoever it be, should not go to the extreme of losing the actual musician in them. Having said that, if you evolve as a musician by taking drugs, that's awesome indeed.


-2numerouno

The rap community has nothing on rockers or country musicians.


ambiguousoul

I meant most of the musicians in general


TezMono

No you didn't cause the comment you responded to already generalized musicians but you specifically narrowed it down to >*rappers mostly


ambiguousoul

Most of them in general drink, smoke up and do drugs which is totally fine. But going the extreme has to be taken care of unless it doesn't affect you doing the music the way you truly want to do. I referred them as musicians


swordstoo

I think OP is only referring to those with careers in music, not all musicians. There's a common phrase called the "27 club" where musicians die around the age of 27 due to drug abuse


Redeem123

I'm familiar with the 27 club. But it's not like more 27 year old musicians die than other occupations; there's just more famous 27 year olds in music and movies than other occupations. Plenty of 27 year old fast food and retail workers die too; you just don't hear about it because they're not gonna make the news.


classical-saxophone7

What about the curse of the 9th


IAmASeeker

People in creative industries tend to have strong internal emotions. For the most part, they are emotionally volatile. A musician is more likely to accidentally overdose or commit suicide in an attempt to stop their inner turmoil than most professions. Statistically speaking, most musicians die before releasing their first song.


Redeem123

> A musician is more likely to accidentally overdose or commit suicide in an attempt to stop their inner turmoil than most professions. Do you have any source for this? >Statistically speaking, most musicians die before releasing their first song. Or this? Unless you mean that most people who could be called musicians never make it a profession. Which means they don't fall in to the group OP is talking about. Plus it's true about literally every hobby.


IAmASeeker

My sources are my personal experiences and what I consider to be self evident truths... just like your sources. If you are so emotionally unstable that you require artistic expression to understand your own feelings, that's not a benefit to a mechanic or dentist... that's a benefit to artists. The primary marketable skill of an artist is that their emotions are more overwhelming than yours. The inability to internally process their own emotions is the part that makes them useful to you. A person with the ability to create moving art is in emotional turmoil... or else their art would be meaningless and unrelatable. You dont need your waiter to be overcome with negative emotions... that's what you need from a songwriter. They only have that skill because they hurt and if they go pro, it becomes their job to hurt for you. And obviously most artists die before publishing their first work. My social circle is made up mostly of artists and musicians but even if that weren't the case, I bet most people personally know more amateur artists than they can name famous artists. For every Taylor Swift there are hundreds of people that have written moving songs that nobody but their loved ones (or maybe just nobody) will ever hear. The person who creates the world's best art is too broken to present it to anyone... we dont hear the worlds greatest musicians, we only hear the worlds greatest self-promoters. The best guitarist I've ever heard is a paranoid schizophrenic with a meth addiction and an impressive collection of self-harm scars. The best vocalist I've ever heard doesnt perform anymore because OnlyFans is more profitable. The most impressive painting I've ever seen was painted on the sidewalk in front of a bar by a guy that smelled of urine. But you'll never see/hear their art... and that's just my puny perspective. Surely if the emotionally and socially incompetent people around me are better than any famous example, there must be many people in the world that do better work than even them. Art is unique in that respect. Of course opportunity is a fickle mistress but if you are an athlete that competes at a global level, you will try to compete at the Olympics. If you are a musician that plays at a globally competitive skill level... that exact skillset is the thing preventing you from performing publicly.


TezMono

>My sources are my personal experiences and what I consider to be self evident truths... Then why are you saying "statistically speaking"?? >Statistically speaking, most musicians die before releasing their first song.


IAmASeeker

To make it clear to space cadets like you that the word "most" means "more than 50%, not 99%"


TezMono

Right, but you realize you sound dumb as hell saying your source is your personal experience and also saying "statistically speaking" even though you haven't sourced it from any statistics 😂


IAmASeeker

Evidently there is no accommodating the lowest common denominator.


CarlJustCarl

Prince and Janis Joplin. They are carrots too with the month they died so carrots are just as dangerous as the music profession.


dajigo

> They are carrots too with the month they died so carrots are just as dangerous as the music profession. What does that mean?


CarlJustCarl

Hmmm singing while eating a carrot will do you in?


ckind94

No health care in the US for starters...


Redeem123

And that's unique for musicians? There are loads of other self-employed professions, not to mention part time workers who also don't have healthcare.


ckind94

It’s a big part of it. Couple that with extremely low pay, lots of travel, stress, and playing in clubs every night where people are drinking and taking other drugs. These things could be mitigated by proper healthcare, but without it, you have a recipe for short life expectancy.


Redeem123

All those things would also apply to a bartender, minus the travel. Or plenty of other professions with similar risks. I’m not saying there isn’t a healthcare problem in the US. But it doesn’t uniquely affect musicians.


ckind94

You'll probably find similar numbers in those occupations as well. I find it much more believable that life expectancy is much more influenced by those external factors than it is by the nature of being a musician.


theundercoverpapist

Depends on where you play. My uncle played drums in various Chicago jazz & blues bands back in the day. And he *frequently* played in various pubs in Chicago's dangerous South Side. My dad brought me to see him play a couple times. Once while my Dad parked his car, I saw a dude getting beaten (probably to death) in an alleyway next to the coffee shop where my uncle was playing. Also, think of the buglers in the armies of yore. There they are bugling away on their bugles... Bam! a stray bullet goes into the front of the bugle, twists its way through the brass instrument's turns and loops, into his mouth, and out the back of his head... or he swallows it and dies of lead poisoning. Then there's Nickleback! Their bodies may look alive, but their souls are already burning in Hell while demons reside in their organic vessels. Oh... and finally, I knew a guy once who played the saxophone (and several other instruments). One day, while playing, he had a glass of whiskey on stage with him, to sip between songs. He eventually finished the drink. He went home and just like that... Pow! He died of cancer 27 years later.


Scarovese

This was delightful, thank you


midlife_cri_SIS

Because all the cocaine and strippers?


damthatriver18

And traveling they do


midlife_cri_SIS

This is true. My father-in-law used to drive the bus for a band cross country for shows in the 80s. It wasn't always a party on the bus. Sometimes it was just exhausted silence.


damthatriver18

And the more time you spend on the road/in the air, the more likely you are to die from a vehicle/aviation accident. Like Cliff Burton or SRV.


midlife_cri_SIS

So many were taking too soon.


damthatriver18

Can't help wonder how music would be different if some of my fav musicians didn't go in their prime.


PhoenixSelarom

That's the fucked up part, for all we know some of those musicians were yet to hit their prime. Imagine how many fantastic songs and albums we've lost out because they died too young. They're best work might have still been ahead of them.


damthatriver18

True. Cliff Burton co-wrote some of the most well known thrash metal albums and didn't even make it to the 27 club.


crestonfunk

Plane crashes: Ricky Nelson, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Buddy Holly and Richie Valens, Steve Gaines and Ronnie van Zant of Lynyrd Skynyrd, Patsy Cline, Jim Croce, Otis Redding, the Bar Kays, Jim Reeves, Randy Rhoads, Aaliyah, Glenn Miller, Bill Graham, the promoter. John Denver died in a plane crash but he wasn’t traveling to a show. Car and bike accidents: Marc Bolan (T Rex), Eddie Cochran, Berry Oakley and Duane Allman, Stiv Bator (Dead Boys), Kirstie MacColl (Pogues, run over by a boat while swimming), Mary Hansen (Stereolab), Lisa Lopes of TLC, Chris Bell of Big Star, D. Boon of Minutemen, Razzle of Hanoi Rocks, Cliff Burton, Scott LaFaro (Bill Evans’ bassist), Clarence White (The Byrds). I’m sure I forgot some.


damthatriver18

You deserve an upvote for each person listed


Epic_Troll_666

or getting shot on stage


AetaCapella

Take your time, Hurry up. The choice is yours, don't be late.


reversedposterior

Take a rest, as a friend


FreeNote_

Me: "Oh! I do a music!" OP: "Ahh, so you've chosen death."


saxguy2001

What if you TEACH music….


Ratchet-and-Spank

Do rappers count? I feel like a part of hip hop is “being hard” and that can definitely be unsafe lol


gabe2401

It's more of the environment rappers come from than them trying to be hard


Ratchet-and-Spank

Not necessarily. Part of rap is boasting about your street cred or how hard you are. Sure the environment has a part to do with it but a big part of rap is about what I said previously. It’s all I listen to.


Elevenst

Not just to be argumentative, but I highly disagree. For every Keith Richards there was a Bradley Nowell. For every Steven Tyler there was an Elliot Smith. We have rock and roll dinosaurs, and they have death at a young age as well. Also, how would we know the numbers if not all musicians are famous and accounted for?


IAmASeeker

>Also, how would we know the numbers if not all musicians are famous and accounted for? We dont... the huge majority of artists commit suicide or overdose before they publish their first work. We never get to hear the truly great musicians... we only get to hear great self-promoters that can make music.


Danithejetplane

All of the professions have 100% precent morality rate, I don't see your point


eddyeddyd

no Ron, go find becky


Most-Squash5267

Unless you're John Lennon


patienceisfun2018

POTUS has the highest mortality rate.


DeityDestroyerAngel

Maybe Popular musicians, the part that's not safe is for the ones doing random drugs all night with rockers. Lost one recently he was only 27 I think but he was a traveler punk and drank like every day, same with a year before that, man your right I can count 5 off the top of my head from either fentynol or beer. None super famous but thats what your probably talking about. RIP, NOLAN, TOPHER, ROB, CREEDENCE, AND JARET. Then another one died in a hotel fire a few years before that. Jared was a good kid before that.


Electronic-Morning76

Don’t musicians have to do a lot of traveling meaning they’re on the road a lot meaning they are in danger more so than an office worker?


IAmASeeker

Musicians spend very little of their time doing the glamorous events associated with musicians. People have a conception that musicians spend all of their time on tour but tours are promotional events intended to market their latest album. So when the album comes out, they spend a few months playing live shows... but before that, they spend 4 years in their own home writing and recording the album. Guns N Roses are seemingly always on tour but have only done 9 tours in 35 years. Granted, one of them was like a year and a half long but still... only 2 of those tours weren't promoting a release and most of their time is spent at home.


Electronic-Morning76

Gotta drive to practice, gotta drive to bars and events. I dunno I guess it isn’t “dangerous” but I’m thinking of the little guys driving around in a van all summer playing for peanuts.


IAmASeeker

I'm a solo act so I can't speculate on driving to practice or filling a van with gear but I would imagine you would still commute less than an office or retail employee. I dont have an impressive stage setup like Metallica so I just use the gear at the venue. I live downtown so I can usually get away with putting an instrument on my back and just walking to the show. If I do have to drive, it's never during rush hour traffic that most people have to deal with. For me, performing as a musician is barely more dangerous than going to the bar... and only because someone might break or steal my instrument.


Electronic-Morning76

Cool insight. Good luck to you buddy.


IAmASeeker

Thanks. I need all I can get. :p


Ssssssophia

Isn’t all professions’ mortality rate 100%?


eddyeddyd

ben is a hoe


Ima_maniac

You’ve never been crushed by a piano falling through the ceiling huh


rollrocker551

Dime bag Darell???


AdditionalEvening189

We all have repetitive motion I injuries.


Buckets_of_bread

I was just reading about a guy like that. Chester bennington, the former singer for linkin park who killed himself by hanging


genmischief

Former Military Musician here... at times I did NOT feel safe. LOL


nemo69_1999

Did you do a parade in Baghdad?


genmischief

Sarajevo.


Over-Cost6715

Sitting in crowded rooms with your mouth wide open for long periods of time doesn't feel that safe right now chief.


YahYahY

Thinking that rockstars that live dangerous lives with substance abuse problems are accurately representative of people that work in the music industry is like thinking Gordon Ramsey and Guy Fieri are accurately representative of people that work in food service.


glowing-fishSCL

The weird thing to me about how musicians are prone to impulsive and thrill-seeking, when music is one of the best ways to be very very entertained by simple things. I mean, a musician can sit at a $50 dollar Casio keyboard and find ways to entertain themselves for hours by hitting one key instead of another. Who needs drugs?


IAmASeeker

But have you ever hit the keys *on weed*!?


glowing-fishSCL

I got that reference.


Harsimaja

Do you mean ‘highly famous rockstar or pop musician’ or just ‘musician’…? If ‘musician’ might need a citation for that.


IAmASeeker

A musician is a person who's emotions are so strong that they can translate them into sounds that you can recognize as representing that emotion. There are more unknown musicians that die from overdose or suicide than famous musicians.


Harsimaja

I’d say a musician is someone who plays music for a living or as a major output to the world. But that’s not how ‘mortality rates’ work. Of course there are more unknown musicians who die that way. But not as a proportion of all musicians. The deadliest city in the world has fewer murders than the entirety of the EU put together. It doesn’t mean it has a lower homicide rate.


IAmASeeker

I think you may be missing my point. Musicians get high and/or kill themselves. Their primary marketable talent is that they are more sad and less emotionally stable than you are. If I had an easy time managing my emotional state, I wouldnt need to make music in the first place. As a musician myself, I have never met another musician that doesnt struggle with the social and emotional aspects of life. The nature of creating art is that you require a way to work through your emotions that no other outlet can provide. If you need to produce art, you are predisposed to dying young, regardless of what your job is.


Harsimaja

Maybe, though I’d still be curious to see sources on the mortality rates. But it also needs to be a lot to be ‘one of the highest’. A number of jobs out there are *extremely* dangerous with very high mortality rates.


IAmASeeker

Realistically, that's something we'd never be able to collect data on. Who qualifies as a "musician"? What qualifies as a "workplace fatality" for a job with no workplace? If I go to an afterparty and OD on laced drugs, is that a workplace death? What if I hang myself in the forest? Does "musician" have to be my primary source of income? How much money do I have to make before I'm not technically "unemployed"? The Halo theme was written on the commute to the office... would a car accident have been a workplace fatality given that he was working at the time? It's very easy for a mechanic... Was he clocked in when he died? Like all things, it's not that black and white when you're dealing with creative jobs.


Harsimaja

Well, right. But that’s why I don’t think the original post is very well-founded and at least needs qualification. That said I could easily see a study with some reasonable proxy criteria: a survey of those who make a living with music (from rock guitarists to buskers to members of an orchestra), or comparing rates for music students to other students (so not including all musicians but arguably isolating the ‘music’ factor for comparison), etc. [Here is one comparing s**cide rates to rates for other creative artists](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11824743/). (Used the * to avoid the ‘helpful’ bot that reads key words and pesters people as though they are contemplating it).


Phirk

Well there are exceptions, for every cigarette smoked its 2 days off of your life and 2 days added to keith richards, ringo doesnt even need that he just doesnt age


ABenevolentDespot

And here I thought that was dentists.


johnygab

Marilyn Manson enter the chat


ComplainyBeard

Honestly, this isn't true. Most musicians die in vehicle accidents because the work involves a lot of travel.


dfelton912

Fun fact: 100% of all musicians will die at some point


placeholder_name85

not sure what the word “inherently” adds to this sentence. doesnt really change the meaning at all


joefiorini

Try falling over with a 60 pound tuba on your shoulder then talk to me about safe!


waivelength

Inherently because? Just sitting in a chair or something? Makes sense but have to factor in inherent to culture


Limp_Investigator250

Because Kurt Cobain, Joplin, Hendrix, etc?


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CatPiano789

u/profanitycounter


kxbrown

A lot safer if you avoid heroin and airplanes


mirrorspirit

And sinking ships


Hydr0lysis

It must be truly horrible to know you will never go beyond mediocre.


TomatoFettuccini

100% of musicians die. It's a frightening statistic.


Illustrious-Photo-48

As a drummer in marching band in high school, I laid myself out - under my drums - after slipping on wet grass. Not a good day. One of the bass drummers received a blind headshot from the bell of a sousaphone. Worse day for both of them.


kaushikz

Mortality rate is 100%.


charinator

Disagree on it being the safest. I’d argue it’s one of the more hazardous professions. Musicians deal with excessive noise on the regular and most suffer from tinnitus or other noise induced hearing loss


mcdefmarx

I mean the most dangerous jobs statistically are those that require you to be on the road for long periods of time: truck drivers and travelling salesman for example. If you're a touring musician then I guess it follows


Feeling_Professor_30

Having mixed hundreds of bands in bars, at festivals, etc, I humbly disagree. There's a lot of danger in being a practicing musician


Sweet_Appearance_997

everyone that is a musician tend to run out of their profession


cbessette

I've had two musician friends die from alcohol abuse, and another was beaten to death in a drug deal gone bad. My musician friends are the ones that get in car accidents, DUIs, end up in jail, have fucked up lives. I don't know what it is that attracts so many of us to the "dark side" .


SomeDymbass

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