By - Serpher
Videogame soundtracks are basically the same as movie soundtracks, and those win legitimately recognized awards
Final Fantasy has literal concerts too. The first time Dear Friends toured in the USA will always be a very vivid memory for me, and it was packed. It was incredible not just hearing the music being played live, but all the people who clearly care about the music. It was honestly amazing.
Hell Id say videogame soundtracks are even more difficult to get right than movies because in movies the beats of the story happen at perscribed points. In videogames you have to craft music and tone shifts that fit with people taking wildly differnts paths and time to get where they are going
Devil may cry has a really good system where it plays cooler parts of the song if you play better
SSX series did the same thing. The better you boarded, the better the music was. If you started doing badly you lost things like lyrics and main melodies and were left with just baseline.
Hang on. It would play lyrics? More than just...
You must've had a faulty copy!
T R I C K Y
No, SSX just had really boring music no matter how well I played!
The Untitled Goose Game did something similar!! If it detected you were being caught or in danger, it would rapidly play Debussy's Prelude III on the piano. Once you hid or got out of sight, the piano notes would slow and eventually stop, and not like fade either, like actual piano notes. Really cool stuff
Cooler parts of the song?
The fire emblem games have been doing a similar thing where they seamlessly kick up the intensity when moving from overview to a fight, and back, without changing the actual song.
Tangentially related but I had gone for a business meeting to Japan and our bosses took us out to this sleazy karaoke place. If you sang well, a girl on the video on the karaoke screen would start undressing and doing sexy stuff and if you sang badly, she would look miffed and start putting her clothes back on, and if you sang really badly, a guy would show up in thongs n stuff, and do creepy stuff. It was hilarious!
Agreed. I love it when a game can sort of detect the pace of what I'm doing and dynamically play appropriate music for that context. Very old game, so I'm actually pretty impressed, but Total Annihilation was an RTS from the late 90s. The music was literally just music tracks on the disc, you could play them on your CD player (composed by Jeremy Soule, so you know its good). Half the tracks were low tempo "building" tracks, dark brooding ambient pieces. But then fast tempo orchestral sweeping "battle" tracks would come on if you engaged the enemy. It was so ahead of its time, I still remember these details to this day, I was probably around 12 when I played it.
Jeremy Soule is a genius
Back on the N64, Banjo-Kazooie would have 5 or 6 different versions of any given song with different instrumentation and such that would seamlessly switch depending on where you were on any given stage, i.e if you were running around a stage and hopped into a lake, then dove under the surface, it would switch to the "underwater" version of the track and start playing it from the exact moment you left off with the previous version of the track. Really helped with immersion.
Sideways has a really good video essay on this! https://youtu.be/HZB2_hlgKoA
Going way back, but I loved how the music in X-Wing would shift between the various songs based on where the enemy was. Just like in the movie, the tension built up and released just as the action started.
iMUSE was best MUSE.
And music in movies usually doesn’t repeat. In video games, you have to have a music that repeats itself without becoming obnoxious. Sometimes you fail, though.
Yup. Some tracks need to be tracks you can listen to for *hours* without getting tired of them. Which ain't easy.
In witcher 3 I was getting into fights just to hear “LELELE” because it was that good
I hate mini-games in my video games, but I went out of my way to play gwent whenever I could so I could hear the music. “back on the path” is one my favorite songs of all the games I’ve played
You bet! The first time I beat Ornstein and Smough in Dark Souls 1 I actually didn't mind having to go at it for a couple hours because DAMN is the music so good. I mean sure it's just a bunch of brass which makes it epic by default but still, it's a really good one.
Civilization 4 won a Grammy in 2011 for its intro song "Baba Yetu". Amazing song and composer, and it was great seeing vg music finally getting mainstream recognition.
Christopher Tin is fantastic!
I fucking love that song
I was bopping to Baba Yetu today, and usually at least twice a week
Bopping to the Lord’s Prayer eh? I dig it.
As someone who lost her hearing as a teenager I can say that some of my happiest music-related memories were from video game music. I can't hear the music now but every time I visit Tom Bombadil's house in LotRO I get choked up remembering this beautiful song in it.
[Tom Bombadil Theme - LotRO](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3dPApPyIGs&ab_channel=Jdbye)
*falls asleep to C418*
take me back to 2012 where every thing was simple. 1.2.5 will always be my favorite.
1.2.5 brings back so many lessons from Paulsoaresjr.
Ugh. Tekkit Classic. Voltz. Will forever be my favorite mod packs. The buildcraft quarries and pipes will always be my favorite memories
Same bro, same
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Most Dark Souls boss music are fantastic.
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I agree. 3 especially nailed it, the multiple phases/movements add more depth to the music.
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The original Demon's Souls Soundtrack though.
Don't get me wrong. The Remake is GLORIOUS! But the original is Iconic.
Ludwig the Holy Blade best one
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I'd like toss my hat in the ring for God of War (2018)
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The Halo soundtrack is a work of art.
Halo ce: the chanting of the ancients!
Halo 2: hell yeah! rock and roll brother!!!
Halo 3: join your voice with mine, and sing victory everlasting!
Halo 3 odst: do ya like jazz?
Halo reach: gimme the drums
Halo wars: minecraft x Halo
Halo 4: Crank the epic sci-fi up to 11
Ahh ahh ahhh ah ahh ahhhhh
Are you having an orgasm or are you having an orgasm
Have you ever played Halo 3?
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Hey Mick, what instrument do you play?
*Mick Gordon busts out a killer lawn mower solo*
The 9 string is ridiculous and I love it
The loosened 9 string, fed through multiple amps, and melded with the sounds of a fucking chainsaw… all because the game directors demanded he not use a guitar for the soundtrack bc it would be “too generic”. I highly suggest people listen to his gamescom panel where het talks about the process of making the soundtrack. It’s an exercise in creativity and breaking the mold.
[Doom music with a lawnmower](https://youtu.be/BjbOnfCCDN4)
I was expecting a Bradley Hall reference, but this is also great.
Figured he would use demon intestines
NieR series has descended to human realm
Nier: Automata has the best music I've ever experienced in a game *or* movie. There, I said it.
rip and tear billy ... until it is done
The doom soundtrack is one of the greatest metal albums of all time.
the Descent 2 soundtrack was made with the help of the metal band Type O Negative, really enjoyed that one.
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Congrats on successfully >!kidnapping your princess!!<
Edit: decided to add a tag for Braid spoilers
Yeah it was such a good reveal, I was blown away by that entire game. Thematically, mechanically, and aesthetically a work of art.
I was gonna have them use bastion's "mother, I'm here" song at my funeral.
But then I realized I don't plan to die.
Certain franchises like GTA have introduced me to a whole new genre of music. Vice City in particular made me a huge fan of 80's pop soundtracks. Furthermore most of the original score composed for the GTA games are memorable
All of the gta main themes are bangers, especially gta iv
I grew up in the 80s and Vice City turned me onto things I never knew about.
This kinda reinforces ~~Billy's~~ the other kid's point. The songs you are talking about are not "video game music" - they are music industry songs that happen to be in a video game.
Yo, I found out that I super enjoy Run the Jewels because of CP2077. Never been a fan of anything outside rock until then.
Eh, nitpicking but I'd argue soundtracks do not equate with video game music. Original scores like you mentioned at obviously good sources of video game music though
Came here for Total Annihilation. The fact that that game had a built-in jukebox feature in the pause menu was a testament to just how fantastic the music was.
da da da da DA da da da da DA du du du du Da, dun dun da da dun dun da da dun dun dun.....
Chemical zone theme from sonic 2 bega to differ.
Debug mode music menu ftw
Oh my god I have this in my head like 97% of the time
[Donkey Kong Country - Aquatic Ambience](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-14jmUtjE0) is a masterpiece.
I maintain that David Wise is the best Western game composer. DKC2 and Tropical Freeze have absolutely amazing soundtracks with such variety between each song.
Tropical Freeze is exceptional. Every time I play it I’m so happy I picked it up
Tropical Freeze is some of my favorite music to listen to when I'm working. Hell, every DKC is great.
Grant Kirkhope also a contender, not to mention Graeme Norgate.
What was Rare *feeding* them?
I went to college for Recording Technology because of that soundtrack
And nowadays all people need to do is go to youtube for that soundtrack. Times are changing!
Don't forget about DKC2's [Stickerbush Symphony.](https://youtu.be/lndBgOrTWxo)
I want this on vinyl so bad...
I actually tried to upvote this twice
Related - one of my favorite channels does a deep dive on the music theory of this song (and others)
I'm'a let you finish but [Stickerbrush Symphony](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ir0d7bjMIk) is the best Donkey Kong Country music **of all time!**
Yoooooo persona gang
The first mention of the *Persona* series is criminally low in this thread, at the time I wrote this
Absolutely! Had to scroll too much to find Persona
Memories of You... ;0;
Castlevania. Nier Automata. Souls games. Ducktales Remastered. Persona. If you want to get more experimental, literally any horror game, as well as stealth games like Thief and Splinter Cell. Oh, want some electronic? Deus Ex and Unreal baby, or Furi if you wanna go hardcore.
With that said, I don't think anyone actually says this in real life... everyone recognizes VGM as music, same as cinema.
*Portal 2 soundtrack*
I think you’re talking about *the friendly faith plate*
The soundtrack of every FF game begs to differ
Haven't played FF since FFX, so I'm only familiar with Nobuo's work. How does the current composer(s) stuff hold up?
I hope you've played final fantasy 7 remake, or at least listened to the sound track on YouTube.
It's like how I remember the songs, but they're much better!
FFXIV composer Soken is awesome.
Here is one of his greatest works performed live on stage: https://youtu.be/aBt4zT\_PBmw?t=32
There’s this one song I heard during my trial of FFXIV that was just bonkers out of nowhere. Like some kind of pirate rock. I loved it.
Hmm, there's quite a few songs in FFXIV and can't immediately think of what song you are referring to.
But with it being pirate my first guess would be Sastasha, Sastasha HM or Sirensong theme songs.
Edit: on a second thought, Garuda maybe? https://youtu.be/zqJRnD5HuZw
Found it! This one: [I Am The Sea](https://youtu.be/U7ForHMX-xs)
Starting at 3:30
Here's a piano/vocal piece from FF 14, performed at the recent fanfest: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVv5Ud54dSA
And a recent big boss theme (written while Soken was in the hospital, unknown to most of the developers at the time): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oG8op2o8omQ
There's a pretty solid mix of styles for different scenes, though Soken loves him some big rock sound for bosses.
Uematsu is basically the “main” ff composer but he is definitely less involved nowadays. Anyway, the music is still incredible. Soken from FFXIV has a clear growth into something amazing as you play through FFXIV and FFVIIRs soundtrack is probably straight up my favourite soundtrack ever, not only is it dynamic but it also manages merge both the old songs with new remixes and new songs all together to do some amazing stuff. It also has a really impressive variety, from gritty guitar to epic orchestra to synthy pop to basically straight up cyberpunk sounding lofi.
FFXIIIs soundtrack is also fantastic and FFXV had a great one too. The one thing thats really consistently good in FF is the music, despite whos behind it, though they all have their own flavor. Heck, FFXIII and one of VIIRs composers worked on Xs ost alongside uematsu iirc.
Here's some personal favorites from Final Fantasy XIV:
[Sands of Amber](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7K_BowsTtw) (AKA theme of suspiciously chill desert)
[Knowledge Never Sleeps](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmGF2iif0mM) (AKA the best town night theme, fight me)
[The Twinning](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBIRYjP1NNM) (AKA everyone's favorite dungeon theme)
[Beauty's Wicked Wiles](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiUp3DpksQY) (AKA theme of big snake waifu)
[Shadowbringers](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guNh20WkmUk) (AKA best expansion main theme, no need to fight me because we all agree)
Nobuo Uematsu is in the Classic FM Hall of Fame
And I agree.
I actually stumbled across this post while listening to [Ghoul from FFVIIR](https://soundcloud.com/crystalchobo2/d5-9-ghoul-final-fantasy-vii-remake-ost) on repeat. 😁
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Guild Wars 2 has some of my favorite soundtracks of all time
This game and its soundtrack (especially core game and heart of thorns music) have a special place in my heart.
the heart of thorns theme. fuck that is the song i listen to when i need to jazz myself up.
Man. Leaving Earth and An End Once and for all give me chills
I *love* GW2's music. Hollow Knight's is also fantastic!
[Ultima Ascension](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsSHrIJ5AWM), [Icewind Dale](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSKGsmjbq2w), [Oblivion](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpqSdORmCX4) and [Skyrim](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWv3DfoiigM) are my favorite soundtracks.
The guy who made the Skyrim music also did the music for the GW2 base game.
Someone hasnt listened to the Neir:Automata OST. The carnival theme can bring you to a whimsical fantasy carnival in your mind.
Do you mean Amusement Park?
I heard the soundtrack to both Nier games before I ever played them. That shit felt like raw visceral transcendent emotions congealed into a solid state and then ground down into a fine mist that washed over and through me, touching all the dark corners and crevices of my heart.
Animal crossing’s hourly music is a whole fuckin vibe. Doesn’t matter which Animal Crossing game either, they’re all bangers
New leafs ones are the best imo
No one says that tho.
Nobody except Reddit cares
no one says that though
well, no one that matters anyways
yeah seriously who gives a shit if some random chucklefuck thinks vidya music isn’t “real” music? i definitely wouldn’t care enough to fantasize about shooting people with that opinion
It's easy to get lots of karma posting an opinion 100% of people share
Karma farming by posting a shitty meme about an opinion the entire website agrees with is this sub's MO. Just count the amount of "DAE SINGLE PLAYER GOOD????" Memes that get posted all the fucking time
Surprised I haven't seen Skyrim here yet.
I created a Skyrim playlist that has the quiet/peaceful songs and let that play in the background at home. I LOVE IT.
Deep stone lullaby anyone?
Enjoying yourselves, intruders?
You now face god like judgement, may it extend eternally.
I don't think I've heard someone say video game music isn't real music since the SNES era. Seriously. Once the next generation came out and actual instruments (as opposed to chip generated tones) could be used that argument basically died.
Doubly so seeing how games in 2006 started trending towards fully orchestrated soundtracks
There are plenty of examples even before 2006. Myst 3 had an orchestrated soundtrack recorded by real orchestra, and that was released in 2001. Total Annihilation I think as well, and that was 1997. Starcraft I don't recall if it was orchestrated, but I'm pretty sure it was real instruments, 1999.
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"Simple and clean" is the greatest song i ever heard.
Dearly Beloved gives me goosebumps in the first few notes. Every single game.
WHEN YOU WALK AWAY
YOU DONT HEAR ME SAY!!!!
Oh wait, wrong song.
Didn't both the English and original Japanese versions predate kingdom hearts 1?
Yes. A remix was used for the games, officially known as the PlantiB remix
Sanctuary is really good, I much prefer it to Simple and Clean
The whole sonic franchise wants to talk to you
Knock! Knock! HEY!! OPEN THE DOOR!!! FINAL FANTASY HERE!!
“Look, buddy, I got sixteen main entries and countless side games and spin-offs locked and loaded, and that’s not even mentioning the rest of our JRPG compatriots that have trained night and day on their soundtracks that teleport players to incredible worlds you can’t even begin to imagine. Plus, I know this dude called Master Chief and trust me… you don’t want to even begin to think about the mjolnir mix.”
With our powers combine.
Veni, veni, venias,
Ne me mori facias
Veni, veni, venias,
Ne me mori facias
Veni, veni, venias,
Ne me mori facias
"You sound like chapters from a self-help booklet!"
\*creepy organ music intensifies\*
Man with Machine Gun
Final fantasy 8?
Laguna, Kiros and Wards battle music?
Yup that's the one. The FF series has some straight up bangers.
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Who the fuck ever said that?
Mario fricken Galaxy
Nobou Uematsu, Yasunori Mitsuda, Yoko Shimomura and Jeremy Soule are geniuses
Minecraft, Undertale, Outer wilds, Red dead redemption 2 and Skyrim all scientifically disprove this statement.
Forgot Hollow knight.
Skyrim is my ambient concentration music. Doom soundtrack is for when the deadline is in one hour!
My mum keeps telling me to play my games without music - ok firstly my RPGs would be 100% less satisfying without the amazing music to come along, and secondly, MUM I ALSO PLAY OSU! ITS A RYTHM GAME IT NEEDS MUSIC HOW DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THAT!
And it's worse because she doesn't even care about the tapping of my keyboard or anything she just has a dislike for the music itself...
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The Battlefield 1 orchestral score is a god damn masterpiece and I’ll fight anyone who says otherwise.
May I add BFV's Under No Flag. One of the few positives of the game.
Say what you want about that game but it had a certain feel to it. Like the devs poured in genuine love and appreciation into it and it shows. From the music to the war stories to the codex, it shows.
anything composed by Darren Korb is gold and I'll shoot anyone who opposes it
doubly so if Ashley Barret is singing
Doom eternal 🤟🏻
nobody thinks this.
if you think this, you are a nobody to me.
If anyone tells me this after playing Persona 5 I would immediately remove that person from my social life forever.
How I gotta scroll this far to see Persona? 4 and 5 both have excellent soundtracks.
If this were someone's actual take then someone explain to me:
* Why was Journey's OST nominated for a Grammy (and Austin Wintory's works are constantly used for music theory analysis and teaching),
* Why did the title theme of Civilization IV win a grammy
* Why are film composers regularly brought on for game OSTs e.g Brian Tyler (Assassin's Creed 4, Iron Man 3), Harry Gregson Williams (Shrek, Metal Gear Solid 2)
* Why are the compositional decisions made by game composers regarding the use of leitmotifs traced back to Richard Wagner in the exact same way as film scores.
I have no idea where you got this take from but I deeply hope it's a joke; just like my career in music.
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Nobuo Uematsu is one of the greatest composers of all time
Laughs in Destiny 2 Musik.
(Michael Salvatori and his Team is just great)
Tell me how many times I've seen this.
Who has ever said that?
Ace Combat brings the rain and the sickest orchestral music I've heard.
So of the best ones IMO Are
Last of us games
And other ones I can’t think of right now
Kid clearly hasn’t heard Deep Stone Lullaby in Destiny 2, and it shows. I stand with Billy