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Loki + (spoilers)

Loki + (spoilers)

Ms_Chanandler_Bong10

Loki escaping would affect his path to redemption in the original timeline as shown in the Thor movies, but cap and tony going to the past didn't change anything (their destiny decided by time keepers or whoever is behind them). In the sacred timeline the avengers are supposed to travel back in time and recover the stones. Even if they had travelled to a different point in time to gather the stones it wouldn't have mattered. What matters in the sacred timeline is not how the actions are made but what actions are made. Unless your actions affects the predestined path set by the time keepers a new branch in time won't occur. That is what I believe the reason for TVA not arresting cap and tony. Please correct me if I am wrong


Several_Badger7571

That makes sense as to why the TVA left cap and tony alone but it still seems like the TVA are super picky with what is allowed and what isn't. If tony doesn't lose the case when hulk busts through the door then fine they go back and Loki's story plays out as planned. But that isn't what happens, its basically saying they can go back to Pyms time and do wtv they want and it won't matter as long as the stories go as planned. I don't see how random people being taken from their post to look for a bearded intruder or tony meeting his dad giving him advice about how to raise a kid or even name it don't affect anything? I'm not saying it would nexus then and there but somewhere down the line nothing matters? What about cap beating himself up and telling himself about bucky years before he was supposed to find out that doesn't change anything enough? It seems more like the TVA do wtv the hell they want and use other characters lack of awareness of how time works as justification to arrest them.


Sidders1993

The question to ask is - who benefits from permitting the Avengers to use time travel and the stones to take out Thanos and his army? And who *doesn't* benefit from Loki leaving the Sacred Timeline at that specific point, when said person clearly wants to ensure Loki 'kills' the Allfather and aids in Asgard's destruction? It would have to be someone who has a reason to remove these threats from a preferred timeline. This is a timelines where Loki is responsible for his own mother's death as well as the aforementioned death of Odin and Asgard. I can't see how that person can be Loki.


Ms_Chanandler_Bong10

Yeah exactly


ATCQ_

Loki from endgame thanos' timeline who didn't die due to Thanos leaving his timeline. That Loki needs the TVA and the time heist to exist as his own life is based upon the heist.


Several_Badger7571

Another way I look at it is let's say it is kang, how does he benefit from watching every single person for hundreds if not millions of years and forming a task force to do so? Whoever did this specifically wants loki, the whole TVA was designed to stop loki and everyone else can do wtv they want it seems. It almost makes more sense that the TVA was established during endgame (like in real life) because the back stories make no sense and there is too many times the TVA should of stepped in but didn't. My guess is because they aren't trying to stop events from happening they are trying to stop Loki.


Ms_Chanandler_Bong10

Whatever they want as in they cannot interfere with the destiny of others too, if they do that creates a nexus event. Cap from the past who fought with his other self must have thought it was Loki playing tricks. The guards at the shield facility must have known from Howard that the bearded intruder was a mit staff and that he was harmeless, etc. ' It seems more like the TVA do wtv the hell they want and use other characters lack of awareness of how time works as justification to arrest them.' Either that or all this was a mistake that marvel didn't see through the how the TVA would work


Several_Badger7571

Yea I think it really comes down to marvel wanting to make a cool story but there are a lot of holes in its logic. The more I watch older movies the more I see, was nebula meant to kill herself? Was the sorcerer supreme just an idiot? Did wanda not affect a town full of destinys? To answer i hafta make wild assumptions when in reality it's just "this is a new show and isn't it cool don't think about it too much"


Canid119

One thing that should be kept in mind is the TVA isn't trying to be fair. ​ They are keeping the train choo chooing on a very specific track. If doing so creates a branch they have to prune so be it. Not fair to the variant? Doesn't matter thats not why they do what they do anyway.


loverromantics

if nexus events arent real then how come the tva always knos when someone makes one and always captures them


Several_Badger7571

They don't, I don't believe nexus events are law like we are made to believe they are more like preference. Ignore nexus events we don't care about and when things don't go right we'll just say it's a nexus event so we can delete it. At first the TVA was the "greatest power in the universe" but as each episode goes we've come to learn it's all a sham.