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Daily Megathread - 02/07/2021

Daily Megathread - 02/07/2021

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Spangle99

Sports megathread?


creamyjoshy

I like when the sportsmen put the ball into the gamenet and score the goalpoints


ross154687

[Here](https://old.reddit.com/r/ukpolitics/comments/oa7c55/megasport_euro2021_wimbledon_2021_and_sri/) Although it's fairly quite at the moment


w0wowow0w

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukpolitics/comments/oa7c55/megasport_euro2021_wimbledon_2021_and_sri/


ITried2

Tory corruption and scandal continues, soon Starmer will be able to walk into Downing Street


ACE--OF--HZ

Thanks for the laugh


SuchABigMess

When have the past instances of Tory corruption and scandal done that tho?


ITried2

1997.


JungleDwarf

Rots in proper now, just a waiting game.


Spangle99

How long will you wait? Another 10 years?


Spiz101

Also in random tidbits from my research - turns out in late WW2 the Germans were so desperate for food they tried to make synthetic margarine from by byproducts (Fisher Tropsch byproduct wax) from synthetic oil manufacture. Apparently it didn't cause any immediate health impacts but there were some concerns about it having polycyclic aromatic compounds in it!


Elemayowe

How polycyclic are we talking? I assume something like naphthene wouldn’t go down well but PTCDA is pretty inert (not that I would eat it mind).


LanguidLoop

According to my granddad (a p.o.w.) the Germans put wood chips in the raspberry jam as seeds


Spiz101

Quite probably, they were feeding sawdust to cattle as winter rations by the end (it kind of works but not particularly well because they can't digest the lignin and it gets in the way of digesting the cellulose)


JacobianDominatrix

One of my grandfathers was a POW, and one of their favourite hobbies in one of the forced-labour jobs they had do was pissing in the cheese destined to be sent to the Eastern Front.


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amauk

Yeah, I saw that. Coffee made of mud & saliva.


ThePlanck

and lets not forget Rat Au Van


arnathor

They were quite inventive with their cooking all round. The filet mignon didn’t look like much but apparently they delivered quite a pungent taste.


amauk

Sort of... Dungy?


arnathor

Don’t worry, everything will be fine once the cream custard arrives.


Spiz101

> Does watching Horrible Histories on CBBC really count as research? Hey, it's a NASA study on synthetic food manufacture from the 1970s! > They also ate some interesting/grim things in the WW1 trenches. Well in the German trenches, if you were lucky enough to get food, it was probably Turnips. All day, every day, nothing but turnips.


xaanzir

Baldric was on the wrong side!


thomalexday

I would like to wish Michael Gove and Noel Fielding all the best as they go their separate ways. https://twitter.com/diebadrobotsdie/status/1410997618902196227?s=21


Shockwavepulsar

I wonder if she’ll stop blindly supporting the Tories? *Sarah Vine is a columnist for the Daily Mail* Ah she won’t


Bibemus

Sarah Vine turning into a Trotskyite firebrand in the wake of the divorce would be the twist of 2021 we all needed.


interior-space

Cold war Steve has added another one! https://www.instagram.com/p/CQ1h81pHTk5/?utm_medium=copy_link How long can the conga line get?


thomalexday

Labour’s Diane Abbott says she “will never do to Keir what the right of the party did” to Jeremy Corbyn, when asked if she backs her party's leader https://twitter.com/bbcpolitics/status/1410894168596094976?s=21


BigZZZZZ08

So she won't campaign for him to be PM?


TheMegathreadWell

She says on a TV show she was pre-booked into, likely to stick the knife in if B&S had gone the other way.


chrispepper10

The cynical side of me might wonder if she would be saying the same thing had Labour lost. That being said, this is the exact sort of message we need to start seeing.


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Flibble_

Maybe not - she said that as she repeatedly and explicitly refused to say she had confidence in the leader. Not coming within 100 miles of a shadow cabinet post at that rate.


RobbieWard123

Yeah - but only cos they dont have the numbers


tbotraaaaaa

wish she was PM


NovaOrion

Didn’t they try until they discovered the day before the election that 32 was less than 40?


ignoranceandapathy42

When Diane Abbott is the voice of reason and moderation you're in dire straits


Dr_V97

If these rumours lead to anything concrete in th press over the weekend, would it be too low for Starmer to start PMQ's with asking questions asking which cabinet members havent had affairs with aides or tax payer funded associates. Also then bring up michael fallon and damian green (in the appropriate parliamentary language) and ask whether having a sex scandal or an affair is a prequesite to serve in a tory government.


SporkofVengeance

The first part could work. The second just invites mutually assured destruction and, frankly, do you want the Labour party to be the party of marital moralising?


Dr_V97

when you have a loyal family man image in Keir Starmer, who has talked about how devoted to his family he is , it cant hurt to paint him in contrast to the PM. You could then paint Starmer as trustworthy and dedicated to his work, see DPP and barister representing the little guy


ignoranceandapathy42

I don't see why not if he refers to confirmed and recent infidelity


Dr_V97

Some people may think this is below the belt (if you pardon the innuendo). Personally going to the cheap shots is how you get ahead, be controversial, cause a scene. The tories would go low if they had the opportunity, why shouldn't Labour.


dyinginsect

Unless politicians are running on morality tickets then affairs and the like aren't fair game. I can understand the Hancock thing as far as it relates to his breaking guidelines whilst attacking others for doing so and the corruption element. But the affair itself without that would have been none of our business. The Gove issue... again, if it turns out he has had an affair which compromises policies he espouses, or national security, or is mired in corruption, fine, valid talking point. But if he's just shagged around? That's for him and his vile STBEx to deal with, I cannot stand the panting over sex lives people engage in.


Dr_V97

I would argue an affair questions the fidelity and trust the public places in ministers, if they can't be loyal to their families, how can we trust them to be loyal trustworthy ministers. It isn't about the rights and wrongs it is about trust and you can always bring that back to cronyism.


dyinginsect

No. I don't think that's valid. Years ago a friend was ranting about how Robin Cook was a terrible man for his infidelity, made the same argument you just have, that it showed he could not be trusted, etc. Robin Cook, one of the few with the balls to not only stand up to Blair on Iraq but someone willing to resign from the government over it, to give up his career because he morally objected to the government's planned actions. That he betrayed his wife as he did is not a plus point but it was not relevant to his public life and it certainly did not, as he demonstrated, mean he was a man without morals, principles, beliefs and anything to offer. When the Tories were running on Back to Basics and having sordid affairs, *that* was relevant. Any politician doing something whilst condemning others for it and acting to punish others for it deserves all they get. But just as my doctor is no worse a doctor if she cheats on her partner, our politicians are no worse politicians simply because they cheat on theirs.


Dr_V97

100% accept your view on this as it is perfectly rational. I was just curious as to how the opposition could spin it against the government.


dyinginsect

I would think less of them if they did tbh. Now if we attack them for supporting restrictive drug policies whilst coking it up themselves, that I could cheer on!


Le_Happy_Brexiteer_2

Yes, too low


tbotraaaaaa

going low works and politicians should do it


SporkofVengeance

I see the Galloway poison has worked its magic once again.


tbotraaaaaa

he got 21% of the vote from nothing


Dr_V97

I would add to that if you can't stay loyal to the person, you have devoted your life to how can you be loyal to the country, how can you ever be trusted. May be I just want politics to have a bit of bite


beepbeeptaraalert

>if you can't stay loyal to the person you have devoted Marina Wheeler has entered the chat


Dr_V97

Exactly, you dont need to use unparliamentary language to imply the reason for the prime minister's removal from his position as shadow culture minister under the former member for Folkestone and Hythe's leadership was due to his infidelity. Starmer can then turn it back on himself by saying" I have been a loyal and faithful husband", ask Johnson "has he ever had reason to believe he had not been a loyal and faithful husband?"


disegni

Not a single mention of this in the televised coverage I've seen on Vauxhall: >Now there is a new business model - and with Mr Tavares having previously made it clear that future production in the UK would depend on what support the government could offer, it's likely help from the taxpayer will be part of it.


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beepbeeptaraalert

So if the pattern of Hancock's affair is the same as Gove's, the [contracts related to him](https://www.sophie-e-hill.com/slides/my-little-crony/) will highlight who he's been bonking


ThePlanck

So he's had a threesome with Priti Patel and Dom Cummings


frankster

Anyone know who Gove/Vine has been knobbing?


ThorsMightyWrench

When it comes to handing out contracts, Gove has certainly been shafting the taxpayer. But then, which Tory minister hasn't?


thomalexday

Cummings, both


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Le_Happy_Brexiteer_2

Nope, they said no one else IS involved, not no one else HAVE BEEN involved - there is the possibility


9943620jJ

I’m in complete astonishment that the bbc has had the “Labour is back” message on their home page for the entire day. Thought it’d be five minutes then off


tbotraaaaaa

starmer's getting such an easier ride from the press than corbyn did


ZebraShark

What news have I missed with Gove?


beepbeeptaraalert

someone nicked his nintendo


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That’s such a stupid answer but I’ve been laughing for 2 minutes.


beepbeeptaraalert

[an unrelated image of Gove here](https://twitter.com/Babble____/status/1409241454568951815/photo/1)


wellfeelingbishop

I wish the divorce lawyers well


Few_Newt

I'm sure they'll be fine.


joyofsnacks

[I'm sure they're devastated.](https://gfycat.com/impishdelayedarabianoryx)


DazDay

I'd wish they'd just gove us the details.


beepbeeptaraalert

Can't believe they're saying it's a divorce after drifting apart, call it what it is: a reshuffle


benbread

An unnamed Whitehall source texts: "My Gove-aconda don't want none unless you got buns, Hun."


Boo-oris

White liiiiines...


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Honic_Sedgehog

>I hope it’s drugs AND sex. That picture of Sewell but it's Gove.


beepbeeptaraalert

since we're playing scandal bingo, I hope it's drugs, sex AND nazi uniforms


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beepbeeptaraalert

at Barnard Castle?


Kross_B

https://twitter.com/aphclarkson/status/1411021022720057347?s=21 Please don’t let this become a jinx before tomorrow.


compte-a-usageunique

la Suisse je vous bénis


creamyjoshy

> bénis honhon


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Baguette


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Few_Newt

They work when there are global agreements on all the vaccines. It's a new vaccine, there will be delays.


100basepairs

It's not a new vaccine. India just did not get the EU to check its manufacturing plant for AZ, so it's not included in the EU one automatically. But clearly what this means is that it's all the EUs fault and problem or w/e


Few_Newt

Relatively, it is a new vaccine so they haven't had the chance to check everywhere it is produced from. That's what I meant.


RussellsKitchen

They're not an unprecedented thing. I've had to have them in the past for other illnesses. 🤷


corvusmonedula

Yellow fever?


RussellsKitchen

No, it was some of the hepatitis vaccines before going to Vietnam and Laos, back at the turn of the century. I had to have proof of vaccination to get the entry visa.


NorthernPlastics

Quite the political newsfest today. I'm going to celebrate by installing Windows 11 beta. We may have re-joined the EU by the time this PC works again.


arnathor

My PC is unfortunately too old in terms of CPU and has no TPM module, so no Win11 for me unfortunately.


NorthernPlastics

MS have eased off on the minimum cpu requirement in the last couple of days. Also worth checking if your cpu / chipset has integrated TPM which would avoid the need to buy the extra module.


arnathor

I’m on a 3570K from 2013 - doubt it’ll be on the list! And no TPM support on my Z77 mobo either (or space, it’s a mini-ITX in a Bitfenix Prodigy case, so I don’t think there’s any more space for anything that can go in there!). It’s a shame, I like the look of the new interface, and my PC hasn’t really met anything it struggles with at 1080p yet. Guess I better start looking at building a new one… 😁


NorthernPlastics

Just watch out for those prices! It's bloody scalpertastic out there if you're component shopping.


bbbbbbbbbblah

reports of even the plug-in TPM modules (for those boards that have the right headers) being scalped upwards I feel slightly smug for only buying "business" laptops, as they will have had TPMs for years. My main laptop is also new enough to meet the arbitrary CPU requirement as well.


arnathor

Oh I know, think I’m going to take the same tack as I did when going for a PS5 - monitor stock check Twitter and discord, and pounce when the time is right!


tylersburden

I am never upgrading from Windows 98. Does everything I want and more on this puppy *taps gently smouldering laptop*


TheMegathreadWell

>Windows 98 Did they ever fix that bug that lets anyone remote control it whenever you're connected to the Internet? Or is it currently doing everything you want, plus everything some 90s era hacker wants too?


tylersburden

It automatically deleted all my bad university essays for me. And the good ones too. In fact, it deleted everything without me having to lift a finger.


Kenzohall

He already said it does everything he wants *and more*


NorthernPlastics

G'wan, upgrade it to Windows ME. What could *possibly* go wrong?


RussellsKitchen

Good luck. May the force be with you.


NorthernPlastics

Thank you. The work is done and the PC is back in action. I trust by now we've re-joined the EU, Boris Johnson has been ditched from all of politics and climate change has finally been solved? Oh.


RussellsKitchen

Yes. Oh, wait. No.


beepbeeptaraalert

why upgrade from vista? It was pre 08 crash, pre boris. Lots of benefits


TheFlyingHornet1881

Controversial, but I never got the hate for Vista


FlipBoris

Apart from what the others said, MS had a lot of Enterprise contracts that basically said they need to release a new version of Windows every 5 years, or whatever it was, otherwise they would pay a penalty. The Longhorn thing (the successor to Windows XP that they actually had to scrap because it went so badly) delayed everything and they ended up having to rush Vista out before it was ready. Just to meet the contract, they released it to the businesses, but with no intention of them actually using it. However this also meant releasing it to the tech reviewers who downloaded it and slated it as being buggy, unreliable and broken, which just became part of the zeitgeist.


unhinged_parsnip

it got fucked over by OEMs sticking it on low spec machines and third party software companies being appallingly bad at updating drivers for the OS.


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bbbbbbbbbblah

I had new enough / high spec hardware and it was still a dog. I remember a lot of hard drive thrashing (as I had one of those velociraptors that were very noisy) That said there was a genuine problem. MS created the "Vista Ready" specification and made that loose enough to allow OEMs to slap it on things that really should not have got it.


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People and companies were upgrading their operating system on computer’s that were just about functioning on XP. There’s quite a lack of understanding about computer hardware in some companies from my experience.


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Jinren

I mean it's counterintuitive in user experience too because a lot of newer OS versions _are_ faster than their predecessors, including some Windows versions. Base requirements tend to go up but less steeply than the average hardware.


RussellsKitchen

It was a good OS and I never had any problems with it.


allenthalben2

There's not a sports thread atm right? Because the idea of Switzerland taking down France and Spain just seems glorious.


Le_Happy_Brexiteer_2

SUI-ENG final wdnt be too bad


williamthebloody1880

[Here you are](https://old.reddit.com/r/ukpolitics/comments/oa7c55?sort=new)


beepbeeptaraalert

I wish Sarah Vine well, I consider the marriage closed.


jimmygwabchab

[In case nobody had posted already](https://youtu.be/nzan__phXM4)


Hungry_Horace

Christ, that’s a bit on the nose, even for Enfield.


Few_Newt

>7 years ago 🤔


thomalexday

Oh that’s just perfect 😂


leftieladdo

Surely Keith has to resign now? Labour performed terribly.


RubyRosethorn1980

I don't get why anyone thinks calling him 'Keith' is some sort of witty remark.


thomalexday

He will when George wins his court case and the election is void


Boo-oris

🤣


beepbeeptaraalert

The thing about byelections is, they always try and walk it in


mrtightwad

What were the Tories thinking, sending Stephenson on that early?


TheManyMilesWeWalk

Had my second vaccine dose at a pop up. Will I need to cancel my second appointment or will it be done automatically?


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you need to cancel it.


TheManyMilesWeWalk

Will do then. Thanks.


Underscore_Blues

Probably cancel it though you'd hope it would just cancel it itself once your dose is uploaded maybe tomorrow. I'm caught in two minds myself, saw there's pop up centres for second doses near me. The website listing the pop up centres says I should wait at least 8 weeks (my second is 8 weeks 1 day apart) but everywhere else in the world uses a shorter time.


TheManyMilesWeWalk

Yeah they initially said the 8 weeks thing to me and that they're only doing first doses. I showed up an hour before they were due to close and they gave me it because it's better than wasting it. If you go to a pop up I suspect you'll have better luck closer to close as well.


Underscore_Blues

Good shout, there's one near my work on Monday that I could go to just before closing. I'd only be 5 weeks between doses myself tbf.


beepbeeptaraalert

try to cancel, how many weeks after the first did you have the second?


TheManyMilesWeWalk

Around 5.5 and was due to have my second in a few weeks. I figure wait until Monday to cancel but wondered if anyone here had experience with this.


gravy_baron

Anyone recommend any rum cocktails? (not spiced rum) currently thinking caipirinha but with rum


brokenlogic18

25 ml white rum, 25 ml dark rum, juice of half a lime, 75 ml orange juice, 75 ml pineapple juice, a splash of coconut cream, pop half a passionfruit on top, soak that in a shot of dark rum if you fancy and suck on that as a treat. Serve in a coconut half if you're that way inclined 😋


mediocrity511

Watermelon mojito


gravy_baron

hmm. sounds nice


mediocrity511

It is, but far too easy to drink. It's mine of those perfectly lethal summer drinks.


oCerebuso

Neat, from the bottle, singing songs about victory over your fallen foes. Just me?


Boo-oris

Musha ring dum a doo dum a da Wait wrong spirit


Davegeekdaddy

I think you're describing Klingon Blood Wine. Probably the same taste and effect though.


lukalukaluka

Er, yeah - straight.


ulchachan

[Rum sunset](https://www.delish.com/cooking/recipe-ideas/recipes/a3383/rum-sunset-drink-recipes/) It also requires grenadine and orange juice but a) tastes sexy b) looks sexy.


CheeseMakerThing

Mango, banana and pineapple smoothie with ice and white rum. Basically a piña colada with mango instead of coconut I guess?


ulchachan

Not OP but can you deliver this to me please? Thanks


dbry

https://www.thespruceeats.com/hemingway-daiquiri-recipe-760527 Tastes like tropical juice, drinks like poison.


mgskthrns

Caipirinha with rum's called a caipiríssima, fyi. There's always piña colada, but I'd go with the caipirissima myself.


Davegeekdaddy

Dark rum with an ice cube is my go-to cocktail.


Few_Newt

Sack off the ice cube - it's better room temperature.


gravy_baron

sadly i cant get a decent enough rum for that on short notice


Few_Newt

Zombie. Did land me in the hospital once though.


SwanBridge

Dark and Stormy. Dark rum, preferably Goslings, but any will do, and ginger beer. Add a piece of lime or lemon if you want to be fancy. Extremely simple cocktail, but just like the Cuba Libre (rum and coke) works incredibly well.


WhyNotCollegeBroad

Daiquiri


Few_Newt

(Blended) banana daiquiri best daiquiri.


gravy_baron

i might do strawberry daquiris


Dr_V97

Mojito


gravy_baron

contender


DazDay

Mojito with spiced rum is delicious.


Dr_V97

u/gravy_baron didn't want spiced. If you have any muddle some raspberries with the mint. Tastes great


DazDay

Just saw that.


Bibemus

Dark, golden or white?


gravy_baron

any tbh. probably white or golden though


Bibemus

I'm a fan of the classics. White go for a mojito if you have fresh mint in. Golden, I'd do a simple daiquiri (just shaken with fresh lime and simple syrup - if you don't have syrup, just mix equal parts brown sugar and hot water and stir until dissolved). Although it also makes an excellent Old Fashioned if you substitute good golden rum for whisky. Orange bitters for a twist if you have them.


gravy_baron

you know i think i might do golden. do some daquiris and old fashioneds cheers


allthedreamswehad

Daiquiris are due a comeback


JungleDwarf

At least without having to muck up with Sarah Vine each night, Gove can focus on his true passion which is a raging cocaine habit. Gonna be one to watch in the Commons I think 👀


slothsan

He needs it with the skin full he seems to have here :https://vimeo.com/430725285


chrispepper10

Starmers written a column in the Guardian as well now: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jul/02/keir-starmer-labour-byelection-politics-kim-leadbeater?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other He can't get enough apparently!


9arzival

Great article. Full of the sort of positive outlook Labour need right now I think.


NovaOrion

People complaining about not hearing enough from Starmer will still be angry about this for some reason. Seriously though, it’s a good optimistic article.


dyinginsect

... the fuck are you all speculating about Gove being gay or bi? If he is, he is, this nudge nudge wink wink commentary is weird


wellfeelingbishop

Its more a comment on the affair and his boss referring to gay people as short lifters in the past. I haven't seen 1 comment thats attacking the idea or him for being gay.


dyinginsect

🙄


DazDay

It's more the potential affair.


Sckathian

From what I can tell there's no source on this chat for all this stuff.


Bibemus

Those are the rumours that have been flying around for ages.


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OptioMkIX

Not on.