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Do you kill mosquitos?

Do you kill mosquitos?

ilovecaptaincrunch

it’s a matter of context. If i’m outside and there are mosquitoes I’m not going to kill them for fun. However If one starts sucking my blood, I’m going to flick it off me for my own safety. I’m not gonna gently pull it out of my skin and put it on the floor.


Logical-Demand-9028

I have mosquito nets on all windows, everyone’s happy :)


BirchBranches

yay :DDDDDD


parsleynsage

Yup. You have the right to defend yourself. If you were standing on the street one day and out of nowhere a cow started charging at you and attacking you for no reason (weird ass cow but whatever), you have the right to hurt that cow to defend yourself. Same thing goes for mosquitos.


BirchBranches

the cow example is life and death situation and i think i could do much better things if i lived than a cow would. mosquito is not comparable because they are usually harmless, you shouldnt kill something just because it annoys you should you? also if you dont repect insect lives then you would also let yourself eat honey


RV_Eddy

West Nile, yellow fever, encephalitis, and many viruses and parasites would like a word.


parsleynsage

It doesn’t matter. You have the right to defend your body from any harm, life threatening or not. If a human touches you without your consent, do you have the right to defend yourself even though it’s not life or death? Of course. If you’re in prison, should prisons have the right to feed you food that isn’t nutritious even though you’ll survive on it? No, because you have the right to nutritious food, which is also a form of self defense. If a bee stings you, do you have the right to hurt it? Yes, because you have the right to protect yourself from pain. Same with the mosquito. In fact, mosquitos are single the deadliest creature to humans. In some areas of the world a mosquito bite will kill you, and although this is exceedingly rare in the US and Europe, it is still possible. You could also die from infection, though this too is uncommon. So for both the small chance of serious damage and your right to defend your body from pain, you do have the right to hurt a mosquito. Eating honey is utterly irrelevant to this topic because it is not a form of self defense, but nice try putting words in my mouth. 👍


broken_freezer

I once got a very awful mosquito bite that was so itchy that I kept scratching until it got infected with staph bacteria which lived on my skin (I dont know where that came from) and struggled with painful boils for month. I know the mosquito isn't the only reason it happened but it is very possible that scratching the bite was how the bacteria got through the surface of my skin. Fuck mosquitoes


DasKatze500

I’m not sure the logic here quite holds. You write: ‘If a human touches you without your consent, do you have the right to defend yourself even though it’s not life or death’. The answer is yes, but if they’re not threatening your life, no, you obviously then don’t have the right to KILL them. You’re equating defending yourself and killing when they’re not always the same thing - your own example here proves they’re not the same thing. Obviously killing someone in defence if they weren’t threatening your life is not morally permissible. Similar issue with your bee example. If a bee stings you, do you have the right to hurt it?’ Yes, you say. But it’s not clear why your answer is yes. Unless it’s going to continue stinging you and cause some degree of actual injury, then at that point, killing it because it gave you a slightly painful little sting is just retribution. That’s not a vegan way of living. Of course, there’s always mitigating factors. Live in, say, Ghana. Yes. Kill the mosquito. Proactively kill mosquitoes, if you like. You’ll save more lives from disease like malaria that way. Mosquito floating around your room in the U.K., hoping to bite you when you fall asleep? No, it’s not ethically okay or vegan to kill it. Catch it in a cup and put it outside, it takes two minutes. It’s not much of a biggie, ultimately. Mosquitos and tiny insects - IMO we have to be agnostic about the degree to which they can suffer, and a quick squish isn’t going go cause much suffering anyway. But let’s not pretend that killing a sentient being because it gave you a harmless bite or sting is a) ‘defending yourself’ or b) morally indefensible. (Edited a typo)


Cowz-hell

Harmless? Mosquitoes are vectors for crazy diseases


BirchBranches

yea i figured out -_-


Cowz-hell

Okay


NecrophileWithStyle

I don't deal with mossies here. I would have to actively seek them to kill them.


BirchBranches

i should have made a "no mosquitos around my place" option


coffeemuffin21

Absolutely I do


PlsGoVegan

I catch them in my palm like with moths and release them outside. If there's too many i cover myself with deet. Prevention by not opening your windows with the lights on after dark is key.


Otherwise-Book-5327

I haven't seen a mosquito in years so Ill say no


SofaKingVegan

I’m not hunting them down and posing with their dead bodies. But if one attacks me I’m going to defend myself.


Ok_Sky_1542

Eh. I just shoo them away. If they're already that committed, they can have a little blood. I dont live in an area where it's a huge problem.


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Ok_Sky_1542

Yes, but I live in an area where mosquitoes do not carry illnesses. They're a mild annoyance at worst. I live in the UK, any illness caused by bug bites let alone malaria is not a serious risk.


Cowz-hell

Dude you're risking yourself, you can get sick. Stay away from mosquitoes man


Ok_Sky_1542

Most of the time they go away when I shoo them or the bite is already there. There's really no point in killing them where I live. I'm not necessarily advocating others do the same, by all means if you live in Africa or somewhere where you can get sick please protect yourself.


Cowz-hell

What, it doesn't really depend much on geography. Also, the same mosquito gives birth to more, so whenever it's in my house I kill it


Ok_Sky_1542

Dude, I've literally never heard of anyone getting ill from a mosquito bite in the uk. I rarely even see them. Most of the time I'd probably just end up killing some similar looking bug anyways.


Cowz-hell

[Mosquitos found in the UK are usually harmless to humans, but another new breed carrying the potentially deadly Zika virus is also thought to be circulating in the UK, making the bugs 'very dangerous' to be around, according to Government officials.](https://www.ladbible.com/news/uk-uk-warned-to-close-windows-as-asian-tiger-mosquitos-arrive-20210512)


Ok_Sky_1542

Ok cool, good thing I've had like, what, 2 bites this year? And I haven't even seen the respective mosquito for any of the bites?


Cowz-hell

Great I'm just looking out for you lol why would I care


Ok_Sky_1542

Well thanks but I'm good


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BirchBranches

sure ill use that debate a vegan subreddit from now on


BirchBranches

i didnt dm. i commented


mrnicecream2

No. They tend not to bother me, for whatever reason. If one does decide to tryto steal my blood, I just shoo them away.


underground_cenote

Yes but not spiders. I don't want West Nile


Unhappy_Phase_7544

I usually try to blow or flick them away


Legion_III

I don't like them because they disrupt my sleep. But I would sooner go sleep on the couch in another room than try to find them just to kill them. Because not only is the second the more cruel option, but its also hard work lol.


Lawrencelot

No, I catch them in a jar and release them outside then close the window